help--kitty care after spaying?

[Celia M. Malm]

I had two kitties spayed yesterday; brought them home today. One is doing
fine, but the other has been vomiting clear liquid and definitely doesn't
feel good.

I always have trouble applying human rubrics to my cats, and this situation
is more difficult than usual, since I don't know what rubrics to use for a
post-surgery condition. (Vet is not a homeopath--just not available in this
area.)

Any suggestions on rubrics? Any remedies that are good specifics for
post-surgery?

Thanks,

Cee

[Tanya Marquette]

here is a simple one to get you started.
tanya

GENERALS - CONVALESCENCE; ailments during - surgery; after

hyper.cpd staph.cpd

[Marilyn Wagner]

Veratrum Album?
Marilyn

[Irene de Villiers]

Dear Cee,

I suggest:

Phos 200C as needed for nausea.
Also 5 mg of VIT B6.

Verat vir 200C one dose to clear anesthetic
Arnica 200C for pain or preferably Bellis per 200C if you have it.
Hypercal cream (or make a spray with calendula and hypericum) on the
surgery scar as needed.
Calendula 200C or preferably Pyrogenium 200C - preventively a couple
doses 12 hrs apart - to prevent infection (NOT antibiotics)

Hills a/d canned food (only vets have it) mixed 50/50 with plain
pedialyte, and fed as needed - use a child's medicine dropper if need
be to assist feed - but be SURE SHE EATS OFTEN!

The first two days are the worst for them - be sure to dose often
with Arn 200C for pain and also hyper 200C as needed.
It's major surgery.

[I hope they are at least 6 mos old or more - or they will have
serious emotional traumas to handle as well, from the unexpected
breach of trust causing such pain.....and you'd need to address that
if need be as well.]

Namaste,
Irene
--
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Luise Kunkle]

Hi Cee,

my own experience has shown that Staph is indeed good for
post-surgical conditions exp. those involving the abdominal cavity. To
the latter: it is recommended for it and my own experience involved
this kind of surgery. About other kinds of surgery I have no
experience.

Regards

Luise
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[Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.]

Another remedy that can help reduce discomfort and speed healing would be a
dose or two of Bell-p.. Staph should help with the vomiting. If not, try
Nux-v.

Rosemary

[Celia M. Malm]

Thanks all!

I posted this before I checked my Beoricke, because I *ASSuMEd* that it
wouldn't have any post-surgical rubrics. But when I picked it up to see what
I *could* find, there it was, under "Vomiting."

Nux V is a really good match for this cat's personality (in addition to
being good for post-surgical vomiting), and sure enough, she's doing much
better.
Cee

[Celia M. Malm]

> [I hope they are at least 6 mos old or more - or they will have

They are both nearly a year old, as far as I can tell. Sisters from the same
litter. They were dumped on me by a well-meaning but clueless friend when
they were already pregnant (although she didn't know that). Friend had got
them from a pet shop (!!!), didn't even know what sex they were (they came
with *male* names!), and friend's husband turned out to be allergic to them.
The kittens are 12 weeks and weaned (most of them given to good homes), and
it was time to make absolutely sure that we didn't have a repeat
performance.

Interestingly, this cat is also the one who had problems with placental
retention when her kittens were born. Some weakness in the system there.
Cee

[Marilyn Wagner]

Irene, my experiences differ...
Lower potencies are often more effective. They work on the physical aspects of their surgery.
Feeding them if they are vomiting is NOT a good idea. Best to wait until the vomiting is resolved, so that you are not adding to the problem. Pedialyte alone is good, but sometimes the intubation will cause irritation in their throat and any liquid, given orally, will be brought up as well. Best to given sub-q ringers.
Generally, spay/neuter well before 6 months of age is not only easier on them physically, but emotionally too. Obviously not all cats are "the same", just as all humans are not "the same"!:) but it is much healthier for them to lose their "reproductiveness" before they bring even more kittens into this world ...ones who just may not find permanent homes. Alternately, younger females who are allowed to have kittens may not be ready, physically or emotionally (this is true in humans as well), and then you will have to deal with the emotional traumas of those experiences.
My thots...
Marilyn

[Irene de Villiers]

How often?
And why take a chance?

I've worked with cats for many decades and although my approach is
not necessarily the only way to do things,
it does work consistently.
Ah - that is where we differ.
I recognize that surgery affects cats mentally as well as physically.
Which is why it is necessary to instantly stop the nausea with Phos
200C and Vit B6. It is even better to prevent the nausea with B6
before surgery. It is the lack of B6 which causes the nausea - it is
destroyed by anesthetic, (especially the premed shot) and used up by
stress.
Lower potencies than 20C might eventually stop the nausea - but will
take too long to be effective and cat kidneys are compromised if cats
fail to eat very often every day.
No it's not enough; Cats have a very fast high-protein metabolism,
and while pedialyte will help against dehydration - the protein
metabolism needs to be stoked after surgery to prevent ketosis. It is
really hard to get a ketotic cat going again, and it is not worth the
risk. In addition there is no healing possible without protein, and
the cat will feel better if it can get the healing process under way
sooner rather than later.
I have yet to see that needed, on the protocol I have used.
No, the research shows the opposite - and shows emotional trauma and
high rates of FIP and other stress-triggered diseases. This "early
spay" is just what the shelter profession and the breeder community
likes to promote. They have ulterior motives - spay before selling
kittens to control "who breeds" in a lazy way - or sale from shelters
and control of "who breeds" in a lazy way. The kittens pay the price,
either emotionally or both emotionally and physically - with FIP and
other illness. The rate of FIP alone in such kittens, proves this point.
That is not the same thing as spaying before 6 months.
Procreation can be managed responsibly - and I do not consider kitten
hysterectomy to be responsible at all.
Just as in humans who are not sexually mature - hysterectomy in cats
pre-sexual maturity, causes havoc with sudden hormone changes and
resultant stress management within the endocrine system, and
consequent physical and emotional health issues.

There are responsible ways to halt procreation of unwanted pets.
There's a good system in place in this city:-) And in some countries
there are laws against breeders doing such things to young kittens.
There is no unwanted procreation as a result of these sensible
approaches. They are a little more work to implement than a lazy spay
choice, but they are very effective and result in healthier kittens
and far less FIP and kidney disease.

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."