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Lucy De Pieri
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Childhood vaccine + flu vaccine = big problems - Help needed

Post by Lucy De Pieri »

Hi Shery and all
I just had a frantic phone call from a mother. Her 5 years old daughter had her vaccination (mom was not sure what it was!) and flu vaccine soon after each other. Within 24 hours the child is displaying neurological symptoms.
The child has been taken in the hospital for an ECG and tomorrow she is having an MRI.
Here is the question.
How to proceed from here: totality of symptoms or Thuya?
Any advice on this matter is greatly appreciated.

The first thought that came to my mind was: What were they thinking?
But right now it doesn't matter, the child needs urgent help
Thank you for any help
Lucy
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

Take a deep breath and use the totality of the acute neurological symptoms.
I stopped epileptic fits after vaccination with Cuprum Arsenicosum a few years ago (not acute, but chronic, same fits since the vaccine, so the same remedy was indicated); healthy since then, no need for any other remedy.
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Lucy De Pieri
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Thank you for the advice. I will take a very deep breath, I will see the patient this evening.
Lucy


muthu kumar
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Post by muthu kumar »

What kind of neurological symptoms? In general go by symptoms. For
convulsions after vaccinations - it is Silicea.

There are many more drugs for vaccination - if you look into any
standard repertories- but one time or other Thuja might come out -

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daughter had her vaccination (mom was not sure what it was!) and flu
vaccine soon after each other. Within 24 hours the child is
displaying neurological symptoms.
she is having an MRI.
thinking?
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Lucy De Pieri
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Post by Lucy De Pieri »

I have not seen the patient. I just got a frantic mother phoning asking to see me. She quickly mentioned about the vaccinations and the "typical symptoms that you get from the vaccines". Mom was in a real state. I am just try to be prepared - if one can ever be prepared for such cases - and see if other might have experience in similar matter.
I will see the patient this evening
Kind regards
Lucy

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Sarvadaman Oberoi
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Post by Sarvadaman Oberoi »

Dear Lucy,
Would any of this help?
KN MATHUR PRINCIPLES OF PRESCRIBING 2003 B JAIN PAGE 355
Aconitum napellus - Vaccination, effects of. JH Clarke.
Antimonium tartaricum - Thuja fails and Silicea is not indicated
Apis melliflaca - puffing or swelling, sudden, after vaccination
Belladonna - fever with skin inflammation, also if Apis fails
Crotalus horridus - post vaccination eruptions
Cupressus lawsoniana - Vaccinial acne. Where the primary causation is from the effects of vaccination, Thuja, Sabina, Cupressus, Vaccininum, or Malandrinum may be used, Thuja generally sufficing; and I have required Acidum nitricum in some cases. (JC Burnett)
Echinacea angustifolia - Symptoms of blood poisoning, septic conditions generally. Boils. Erysipelas and foul ulcers.A remarkable case of vaccinal poisoning is recorded (H. R., x. 527) in a man, 45, cured mainly by Echin. MT in 20- drop doses.
Graphites - Vaccination, effects of. JH Clarke.
Gunpowder - with Thuja and silicea, EP Anshutz
Kalium muriaticum - Vaccination, effects of. Albuminoid eczema, or other skin disease, arising after vaccination with bad vaccine lymph. JH Clarke.
Malandrinum - Vaccinial acne. Dry rough skin persists years after vaccination, also prophylactic, before, after
Lyssinum - It removes the bad-effects of anti-rabies vaccination.
Mercurius solubilis - Vaccinosis. JH Clarke.
Mezereum - eczema, itching eruptions
Acidum nitricum- Where the primary causation is from the effects of vaccination, Thuja, Sabina, Cupressus, Vaccininum, or Malandrinum may be used, Thuja generally sufficing; and I have required Acidum nitricum in some cases. (JC Burnett)
Psorinum - Burning itching pustule after vaccination, eczema appeared soon after vaccination.
Sabina - Vaccinial acne. Where the primary causation is from the effects of vaccination, Thuja, Sabina, Cupressus, Vaccininum, or Malandrinum may be used, Thuja generally sufficing; and I have required Acidum nitricum in some cases. (JC Burnett)
Sarsaparilla officinalis - blood purifier, itching eruption on face, skin
Sepia - face, pale, yellow, earthy complexion, urine, red sediment, indifference, irritable, brooks no opposition,weeps easily, thirstless, constipation - i.e. sepia symptoms after vaccination
Silicea - Vaccinial acne, abcesses, convulsions after vaccination
Skookum chuck aqua - has also cured vaccinal eczema. JH Clarke.
Streptococcinum - Vaccination : N.B. W.S. : especially rickety appearance and malnutrition.
Sulphur - Pustular eruption after vaccination, lips, red as if painted, acrid secretions, offensive body odor, burning heat, top of head, palms, soles, quarrelsome, - i.e. sulphur symptoms after vaccination
Syphilinum - A young lady contracted "lepra-syphilis" from vaccination. She had an immense blood-boil on her arm which would not heal. Face broken out with a lumpy fiery rash. With Syph. 1m at bedtime she recovered rapidly; the arm healed quickly and her face became free from eruption. JH Clarke.
Thuja occidentalis - Bad effects of BCG vaccination, immediate as well as remote effects, whooping cough after vaccination, vaccinial acne yields to Thuja occidentalis, Sabina and Cupressus, also to Silicea and Maland.
Vaccininum - scar tissue, develops into cheloids or ulcers
Variolinum - preventive, smallpox, produces mild symptoms of smallpox, immunity to smallpox

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