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muthu kumar
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Not to rekindle the fires; LONG

Post by muthu kumar »

Thanks Shannon for raising a good question-
To remind you-
Sheri slammed me because I did a lot of dry dosing, did not follow 6th
edition or water doses etc; supported combinations etc.etc.

, and is now

One thing we do not get is- it is one thing researching /dabbling with
something, another thing supporting it as main stream and recommended
methodology-

I support combos ( I did in my general practice) and always will- if
not done as classical homeopathy- if not portrayed as THE Homeopathy-
I do not have qualms about it if used by practitioners - if people
can do EFT, Reiki, Acupuncture etc. WITH homeopathy why not
combinations...

I DO NOT oppose Sankaran / Scholten kind of practice - if it is done
by experienced practitioners AFTER the search of a remedy using
provings ( clinical / pathogenetic) is exhausted - because it is still
a research method based on extreme generalization and not
individualization... and homeopathy is about individualization - The
problem with this as against even combos is - this is now considered
mainstream - this is considered classical homeopathy, this is being
marketed as an elevated version of practice and a lot of people have
started using it as the first , recommended approach- somehow it is
hip to be doing this as against the dreary work of poring over materia
medicas..

Being born from the wisdom of modern gurus, it has the capacity to
change and is changing practice from a scientific approach to a
loosey-goosey approach of remedy selection. Does anyone including the
masters talk about when these methods should be used? Is that how they
are used? How do you know you have exhausted the regular approaches
before taking up an experimental / research approach? What do you do
when failures happen with this methods / remedies? I submit that there
is more abuse potential in this than the regular methods ...

This is what I said as changing the theoretical basis of homeopathy...
no proving is needed, not even a physical examination is needed, no
physical symptoms need to be accounted for ( mostly), if the patient
feels like prostituting give him Lac.can kind of practice pearls-

combination people never claimed that they are doing what Hahnemann
suggested, they did not claim that they are superior to regular
homeopathy - are there seminars for combination remedy practice???

Instead what we see in the homeo seminar circuit is introducing new
theories ( where none is needed), introducing new remedies based on
questionable theories ( where none is needed), and creating a
following ( Piet would feel insulted, but still)as if this is how
homeopathy should grow and expand...

And other masters get into the same band-wagon - not to miss out on
the halo effect and glory of being pioneers, or just for the sake of
"you scratch mine and I will scratch yours" attitude because they
have their own theories to sell and they do not want other gurus to
oppose and question it....in this cozy little world of Gurudom...so
that they can cross-sell items in seminars- this is not classical
homeopathy but Classical Marketing principle...

it takes my breath away just to see all of this being done under the
guise of improving homeopathy- when already we are being branded as
quacks and practice privileges removed from us in various countries-

What we need is more rigor in finding the remedy, more repeatability
in the process, more rationale in remedy selection and management of
the case- and less of gazing the crystal ball mounted on the periodic
table with mind clouded with delusions and synchronic symbolism...

If these Gurus have progress of homeopathy at heart let them band
together and find out how to control such proliferation and validate
things before letting them into the main stream-

This whole discussion started off because a student got confused of
this array of approaches- if we cannot standarize the process by
which these approaches mushroom- we are in for a really tough time...

Go and read Raue, Jahr, Hering, Erasmus Case, Lilienthal, Dunham and
Lippe to know what homeopathy can really do...before jumping and
losing oneself in the core delusion morass...become good doctors
before being pseudo-chemists, pseudo-philosophers and
pseudo-psychologists, become more left brain before right brain ( or
no brain)
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Luise Kunkle
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Re: Not to rekindle the fires; LONG

Post by Luise Kunkle »

Hi Sam,
.. but you realise that this is not only un-Hahnemannian but
contra-Hahnemannian.

Not the combos - that was no issue during his time. Not all the other
things you are complaining about - because they also were no issue.

Using non-homeopathic methods along with homeopathy was THE BIG ISSUE,
no matter what the doctors called them. Those who did that or claimed
the right to do so where they thought it necessary or better for the
patient were the people Sam called "mongrel-homeopaths" and worse.

That's why we, all of us, are mongrel-homeopaths, have no choice but
to be if we know what is good for us;-)

Regards

Luise
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and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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muthu kumar
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Joined: Mon May 24, 2004 10:00 pm

Re: Not to rekindle the fires; LONG

Post by muthu kumar »

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I have never combined anything else with homeopathy but I am not
against others doing that.... Mixing any two kinds of medicine is
not that great because that does not allow you to learn from
anything,

In my 2 different clinics - one for homeopathy, hypnosis in another-
I do not like mixing even these since I want to assess which is
doing what...I gave up practising allopathy and when I used to do
that did so in another clinic.

At the same time homeopathy ended up in "holistic group" in general.
It is but natural for holistic practitioners of other groups to
practice homeopathy as well. So I am not opposed to that since that
is the ground reality. This is ok as long as reiki or dowsing or
combo medicines is not claimed to be classical homeopathy.

The case with Combos is a little strange. Homeo medicines are used
though not the law of similia. More than that- how are we going to
defend homeo pharmacies selling the combo products?

It would continue as a necessary evil since pharmacies need money to
survive and perhaps more than selling potencies selling these is
what keeps the homeo pharmaceutical companies alive...If homeo
medicine manufacturing can be taken up by national homeo
associations etc. and they do not have to make profit by selling
combos, and medicines in general can be ordered online and shipped
we can stop making these combos altogether and clean up things a
little bit more....

Still individual practitioners will practice combos - but in my view
that is ok, since as a profession we will not have the embarrassment
of preaching something and having to put up with something else in
the pharmacies....and since combos are not worshipped the same way
as law of signatures, periodic tables etc...and are not held
representative of classical homeopathy...


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