Any clue about the mechanism of isopathic/homeopathic treatment of burns?

[Celia M. Malm]

I have a frustrating tendency to get burns on my hands in the kitchen, and I
pulled a real doozy last night, grabbing the handle of a very hot iron pan.
As usual, I treated the burn isopathically--running hot water intermittently
over the burned area. I never fail to be amazed at how well this works. But
it got me thinking: how on earth *does* it work? It's one thing to take a
similar remedy, but quite another to apply more heat to a burn. So why does
it help? Instead of a horrible blister on my thumb (and that *is* the way it
was tending), I have a slightly tender shiny patch. A few years ago, hot
candy splashed on my hand, resulting in a (probably third degree) burn
larger than a silver dollar; the scar that was left (in the most badly
burned spot) after a year is smaller than a dime. Any theories?
Cee

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

It avoids vasoconstriction that the usual cold treatment creates, allowing
immediate supply of oxygen and repair substances to the burned area as well
as removal of toxic burned substance products, preventing further death and
poisoning of the surrounding tissues. Inflammatory kinins are immediately
removed and swelling prevented.
In other words, some cells are dead from the burn, other are vacillating
between life and death; removing all the toxic waste and increasing the
nutrition/repair of the area pushes the injured cells to repair instead of
death.
Simple physiology, no mystery........
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".

[Christine Wyndham-Thomas]

I wouldn't say it was isopathic, because you're treating the burn not with
the same heat but 'similar'.

I wonder sometimes just how far we can explore 'similars'. When I was
aged 18 I used to get recurrent nightmares that was so bad I was afraid to
go to sleep at night. Hadn't heard of homeopathy then. One day when I was
in work and had nothing to do, the receptionist brought me in a book to
read: Dennis Wheatley's The Haunting of Toby Jugg - about black magic. I
told her there was no way I could read it because of the nightmares I was
having. Anyway, she left the book with me in case I changed my mind.
Eventually, I couldn't resist. Had a little read and got so engrossed that
I couldn't put it down. It actually made me want to buy other books of his,
but the strange thing was I never had another nightmare from that moment
onwards.
Christine

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[Celia M. Malm]

> Simple physiology, no mystery........

So why do allopaths still want you to put cold on burns? *shakes head*

I wonder if this method could cure severe burn cases (large area of the
body)? The kind that seem hopeless?
Cee

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

Because 1. the cold relives the pain, true, by numbing the nerves and 2.
They forgot their physiology, working in knee-jerk reaction in a this for
that prescription.
I always have loads of fun when I can push a former colleague in explaining
the logic of his treatment in terms of anatomy, physiology and chemistry,
especially on public debates.......they are so unprepared I almost pity them
.........
As for large areas, you should immerse the patient in warm water but the
pain would definitely be excruciating, so here is a good case for a general
anaesthesia, AND you would need to have nothing deeper than a second degree,
although it would certainly limit the extent of the damage......
unfortunately very unpractical, by the time the patient arrives in ER, the
damage is mostly done and the patient is in shock, needs reanimation and
all the intensive care just to survive......
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".

[Shannon Nelson]

LOL, you are wicked! I wish we could watch you in action.

Can calendula spray still be of benefit at this point? I realize that
might not remove the need for other management; but when you say "the
damage is mostly done", does that mean that it's past the point of
calendula? Do you have experience using remedies at this point--can
they take the place of "reanimation and all the intensive care", or not
at that point?
Shannon
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[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

The question was about large burns; those are always accompanied with
hypovolemic shock from loss of fluids through the burns, neurogenic shock
from the pain and trauma, all those can kill in a few hours; then you have
the resorption of toxic products from the burns with renal failure.
You need to compensate the fluids, remove the burned tissue as soon as
possible (also prevents infection), etc,......that is where conventional
surgery and burn units are at their best ALTHOUGH they could do even better
by using cantharis, carbolic acid and Calendula externally and internally,
lavender oil, arnica, aconite, opium, all the shock remedies, and all the
others like pyrogen, Ars alb, the venoms, etc,..... Dream along will you....
.....
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".

[kcallen2]

You must mean that the warm treatment not only avoids vasoconstriction but also increases vasodilatation, otherwise no treatment at all would be as beneficial as homeopathic. Is this correct? You say that the cold treatment creates vasoconstriction. Does it really create it or does it increase the body's natural tendency towards vasoconstriction at burn sites?

Karen

[Dale Moss]

Don't forget Ignis alcoholus!! Best burn remedy I've ever used -- Cantharis can't compete.

Peace,
Cinnabar

[Lucy De Pieri]

Hi Cinnabar
is Ignis alcoholus a remedy ? I seem to recall something about it from Kent but could you please refresh my memory?
Thank you
Kind regards
Lucy

Dale Moss wrote:
Don't forget Ignis alcoholus!! Best burn remedy I've ever used -- Cantharis can't compete.

Peace,
Cinnabar