Instant cure with Psorinum

[Joy Lucas]

Hi, him a gem OK, non stop!!

Joy
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[Kathryn Ellen Madono]

LOL You made my night. But you have to admit we get really thoughtful answers from people like David Little so don't create a witch hunt where non exists. Blessings, Ellen

[Chris_Gillen]

Maybe you deleted my previous posts on the subject, I am in favour of
*balanced* discussion.
Sorry, computah says noooooooo to all your protestations of mere innocent
reportings. Lousy, lousy, lousy referral there Simon. ) At least one brave
person who genuinely studied and used the method already published their
accounts. Lo and behold, IT DOESN'T WORK in its routinist administration and
absurd dosing, SURPRISE!!!!! but undoubtedly the new agers and
beyondhomeopathers in the name of free speech will try to resurect it in the
spirit of the times, and say it lives.

Juvenile (at least I can spell it) perhaps, but honestly son, WHAT were you
thinking???? Don't blame the chocolate )

[Simon King LCPH MARH]

PLEASE see all the tongue in cheek emoticons I included!

All my comments are in genuine good humour!

Simon King,
http://www.Homeopathy-Help.net

[Simon King LCPH MARH]

How VERY dare you!
LOL

Seriously though, I'm sorry you have completely lost me, , are you
sure you haven't confused my posts with someone else's, I don't
understand what you are referring to at all? Nowhere did I say it
works, nowhere did I recommend it. How is that a lousy referral?
(baffled)

... here's to balanced discussion.... I'll drink to that...
Can you post the link for the person who published their accounts?

BTW Kathryn... I am not creating a witch hunt I hope, just giving a
humerous nudge to the (usual) tenor of some responses. David's
comments are as always invaluable.
Simon King,
http://www.Homeopathy-Help.net

ps there's nothing wrong with my smelling it's my tryping that s carp!

[d_barbara_hamilton]

err....yeh, but, no but, yeh but... I have seen this seemingly
work on a teenager in a full-blown attack of asthma: prescriber (not
myself) gave Psor, descended at 10 minute intervals, which relieved
the severe attack, and was never to return with such full-blown
symptoms, only wheeze from thereon (in a cyanotic hospitalised case
where they had nearly died before from an asthma attack).

I have also been prescribed/suggested descending with Hypericum after
slamming my finger in a door - and while the top potency helped, each
potency helped just a little bit more till I was (to my amazement)
absolutely pain-free within 10 minutes !

Ok, I appreciate there is no way of knowing what would have happened
if one just stuck at the single potency, but the reason I followed
that suggested protocol was because I had seen it work before, so was
more open to the idea perhaps. I also think in the Hypericum case,
the part about getting to 'pain-free' would have taken a lot longer -
as I felt only a slight improvement after the 10m, and 1m... but then
you can argue that maybe 200c, 30c or 18c was the optimum potency and
the one that 'worked'. I don't know ! I know this is a classical
list and my viewpoint is probably not welcome, but I believe in the
freedom of other subscriber's making up their own minds, based on
personal and recorded experience(s) and hope that makes for "balanced
discussion".

bw, Barbara
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Gillen" wrote:
innocent
one brave
administration and
it in the
were you

[d_barbara_hamilton]

LOL. Just reporting my experiences FWIW - and I didn't find the top
two potencies worked speedily enough - so hence 'trying something
new'. ["Want dat one" - to which you will presumably respond "Don't
like it" !]

bw, Barbara

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Gillen" wrote:

gaayyyyyyyy.
honestly
ordinarily does

[robin9168]

Thanks for your amusing and very British posts about the Dyson stuff.
I notice Roger Dyson is speaking at the Irish Conference in June as is
Peter Chappell. They should thank me for potentially filling the
place with Minutus members by announcing that here!

When it first surfaced I found it interesting and slightly amusing
that Roger Dyson considers his approach to be true Classical
homeopathy and bases his methods on the Organon! Its not actually his
method, he learned it fom an Indian homeopath Pritam Singh Ghattaoraya
who died a few years ago. I have tried to be open minded about this
approach since I first came across it about 14 years ago, but without
success. I find it hard to understand ho anyone who has really 'got'
homeopathy can believe in such a way of doing things. But then I feeel
the same about Ellmiger (?) and the sequentialists (Nat mur a specific
for grief - pah!) but they have many seemingly intellingent adherents too.

Dyson claims to cure many more serious cases than a normal classicist
would be able to. My investigations have not supported that view.
Classicists believe he is harming people with his recipes. I have seen
no evidence of that either. Neither of these things surprise me
because I feel old fashioned classicists are the least qualified
people to talk about the effects of giving anything other than single
doses and peole who were never any good at classical homeopathy are
similarly unqualified to talk about its shortcomings. I think Roger
would himself admit that he never made what we recognze braodly as the
Kentian way work very well for him.

For what its worth I think these methods are simply a blunderbuss
approach and that most of the remedies patients are given go straight
over their heads. Specifics dont work. Once individualisation goes
out the window the essence of homeopathy goes with it imo.

One example I vageuely remember from the book or a lecture was a PMT
case given a sequence/cocktail of all sorts of remedies, each with
their reason. To me it was a simple Sepia case and the reason she
improved was that Sepia was in the programme. I could see no good
reason for given any of the other remedies.

I have been in many arguments about all this over the years and prefer
to keep out of it now. However it still interests and slightly
disturbs me that hoemopathy is practised in SO many different ways and
each school of thought claims excellent results. Especially as the
philosophy of each of those schools in most cases proclaims that their
way is the only one that can possibly work effectively/safely etc. My
beef with people like Chris here is that homeopaths rarely want to
discuss the important issues around what is real and what is belief in
homeopathy - to step out of their safety zone and try different things
or at very least try and understand what other perfectly rational and
intelligent homeopaths are doing. Especially methods that either
'shouldnt' work but seem to or 'should' be harming people but dont
seem to. It will take generations to properly understand our science
if the thinkers amongst us remain so entrenched in their own little
worlds. Im still totally entrenched in mine but Im trying....
)

[Simon King LCPH MARH]

SO? Some things too scary for you to have a balanced discussion
about? Others seem to have managed fine.
##Ah.. that post turned up later on my list....
## you shouldn't suggest such things about yourself even in jest!

[Joy Lucas]

"Others seem to have managed fine"???

It seems to me yet again that the list police are at work in as much as
these damaging rogue treatment protocols reach this list to stir things
up and I guess many are actually gagging for the miracle one rx cures
all and do really really want to practise like this and actually want
to know much more about it and on the other hand we (the opponents) are
expected (also by the police) to write respectfully in response to
these rogues practices, i.e. suggestions that we should be open minded
about it because open minded = being a sucker and taking all this in
(Dyson do make vacuum cleaners after all).

I doubt anyone is scared. Joy

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