Lyc Patient

[myirishenergy]

Hi All, Here's hoping everyone is having a good day....
Lyc Patient has been doing wonderfully on Lyc for 6 months now.
Increasing his potency as time goes on little by little and low and
behold he comes up with gout in his left foot. NEVER had gout in his
life and he's 66 yrs old..
Since he still pictures a Lyc constitution, I'm confused now because
this is a NEW never seen symptom yet his mental state is good.
He has Nice energy, bloating is pretty much under control, smoothed out
personality conflicts he once had.
Is this Herings Law or a NEW symptom caused by a dis similiar or
aggravation from the 100C? Left side??
Lyc is a Kidney, Liver remedy....uric acid? Could he have had this all
along and there is a layer peeling of disease?
Any thoughts on this I'd appreciate
thanks all
Emily

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Emily,
If it were my case, my first step would be to suggest that he stop the
remedy for a while (few days or weeks?) and see what happens--does the
gout go away? And if it does, is there any change in the mentals at
the same time? The way I'd explain it is that I see two main
possibilities: One is that the disorder is being "externalized", and
the gout should go soon, and if not we'll re-prescribe; or perhaps
we've been overdoing the Lyc, and need to back off a bit.
Shannon
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[Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.]

It sounds to me like a nice expression of the Direction of Cure. Assuming
it's not totally agonizing, I would expect it to go away quickly, and leave
him feeling well without any further action being necessary to address it.
If he's on LM potency and taking repeated doses, you might want to have him
stop the remedy and watch what happens. That's about what you need to do
now in any case -- stop and watch and wait. Tell the patient about the
Direction of Cure and why you're waiting.

Rosemary

Rosemary

[myirishenergy]

Thank You and Shannon...
I agree.
Just concerned me it's left side and NEW never seen before. Plus
the fact he's had decaf coffee and a little alcohol.

But yes wait and watch.
Emily
Assuming
and leave
address it.
have him
need to do
the

[Joy Lucas]

The way I see it is that the Lycopodium could well be dispersing gravel
that has been lying dormant in the gall bladder and hence the gout (?)
and this would also provide the right to left keynote of Lyc, so not
such a problem that this is a new sx and it should continue to disperse
and the direction of cure is going downwards as it should.

It is a moot point about coffee antidoting rx. Joy

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[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Joy, assuming that there were any other crystals forming elsewhere in the
body (say kidney / gall bladder) their chemistry would completely different
to those cause gout.

Now if the person had joint pains elsewhere in the body and now they were
gone but gout symptoms were being felt in the foot, we would indeed be
SMILING.

Rgds
Soroush

[Joy Lucas]

Not sure I know what you mean, are you saying the case is going in the
wrong direction.

Lithic acid can form in various parts of the body not just the urinary
organs.

Lyc = descending sx, stones, gall stones, gravel, lithic acid diathesis.

"Bilirubin is a byproduct of the hemolysis of red blood cells and
hemoglobin. The average lifespan of red blood cells is 120 days, after
which they become too fragile to exist. Their cell membranes rupture
and the released hemoglobin is phagocytized by reticuloendothelial
cells throughout the body. Eventually these are converted to
bilirubin. Within hours, the bilirubin is absorbed by the hepatic cells
where it is combined with other substances and partially excreted as
bile. Bile is excreted through the gall bladder into the small
intestine where it stimulates peristalsis and is converted by
bacterial action into a more soluble substance which is absorbed
through the intestinal mucosa into the blood. Most of this is in turn
re-excreted by the liver back into the gut. About 5% is excreted by
the kidneys into the urine".

And with the action of Lyc centred on the liver this seems appropriate
to me - gravel making it's way downward. We are the sum of all our
parts. Joy

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[myirishenergy]

Joy, I'm always interested in what other Homeopaths have to say about
what will slow a remedy...
alcohol, hair color, aspirin, beer, wine, coffee, mint, camphor.

I do believe that Camphor and mint or anything with a very strong odor
can hurt the remedy by slowing it down but I'm always surprised to hear
some Homeopaths make no restrictions on their patients regarding such
things or they let them drink alcohol, or maybe beer and not wine, no
coffee just decaf. Seems there are varying opinions.
I still have mixed feelings about this.
What did you mean moot? point...
Emily

It is a moot point about coffee antidoting rx. Joy

[Joy Lucas]

Moot means debatable, to be discussed. A number of homeopaths ask their
clients to routinely refrain from mints and coffee - sometimes they
comply and sometimes they don't and I have seen cures with someone who
drank copious amounts of coffee and many other cases that seem
untouched, even when rx have been prescribed that allegedly are
antidoted by coffee such as Lyc; ledum; lachesis; Colocynth and
countless others, and I was wondering what others might think. Have a
good weekend, Joy

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[Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.]

Hi, Joy. Interesting subject. I've known maybe two patients who have
clearly had remedies antidoted by menthol (actually in both cases, use of
menthol constantly in multiple forms -- ointment, vapors, lozenges, etc..) .
None antidoted by coffee, or by mint in toothpaste, for instance. On the
other hand, almost everyone who's had major dental work (e.g. root canal,
extractions, crowns) has shown evidence of some antidoting, which has easily
been remedied.

Rosemary