I can't even remember what the presenting complaint was, he certainly
didn't come because of the drug dealing, that just came out during the
case taking. As I said in another post the lecture then was
illustrative of other practice methods - suppression and judgement.
Best wishes, Joy
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urgent aspergers
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Ellen Madono
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Re: urgent aspergers
Dear Joy,
I understand homeopathic suppression as coming from long duration of use of a remedy that covers only a small part of the case. Often that is acute care of a chronic problem. Is there more to the story than that? What do your patients do in their own dosing that suppresses their cases? I am actually afraid to use remedies too much on myself. If I can get by without a remedy (herbs, patience, meditation etc), I try that first. I am just not sure that I have the whole story on suppressions.
Thanks,
Ellen
I understand homeopathic suppression as coming from long duration of use of a remedy that covers only a small part of the case. Often that is acute care of a chronic problem. Is there more to the story than that? What do your patients do in their own dosing that suppresses their cases? I am actually afraid to use remedies too much on myself. If I can get by without a remedy (herbs, patience, meditation etc), I try that first. I am just not sure that I have the whole story on suppressions.
Thanks,
Ellen
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Shannon Nelson
- Posts: 8848
- Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2002 10:00 pm
Re: urgent aspergers
Hi Joy,
Have you seen a single dose enact a lasting suppression?
The people you've seen who'd suppressed thru self-treatment, I assume
they were repeating doses over some period of time?
Shannon
Have you seen a single dose enact a lasting suppression?
The people you've seen who'd suppressed thru self-treatment, I assume
they were repeating doses over some period of time?
Shannon
Re: urgent aspergers
Dear Ellen, suppression can come in many forms via choice of rx,
potency and dose inaccuracies and not just from repeated doses -
minimum dose is so basic to homeopathy - best to read the organon,
245-276 +
If you adhere to the minimum dose (which includes the correct potency
choice) not only will you know in time if the rx is correct or not but
you will also do no harm. It is important not to be frightened of
homeopathy, it isn't necessary if we adhere to the principles.
But most of the cases I get have been from repeated doses, sometimes to
the extent that a kind of grafting of the rx sx picture takes place.
But grafting is a kind of suppression as well, as though the vital
force is in frozen time. Best wishes, Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com
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potency and dose inaccuracies and not just from repeated doses -
minimum dose is so basic to homeopathy - best to read the organon,
245-276 +
If you adhere to the minimum dose (which includes the correct potency
choice) not only will you know in time if the rx is correct or not but
you will also do no harm. It is important not to be frightened of
homeopathy, it isn't necessary if we adhere to the principles.
But most of the cases I get have been from repeated doses, sometimes to
the extent that a kind of grafting of the rx sx picture takes place.
But grafting is a kind of suppression as well, as though the vital
force is in frozen time. Best wishes, Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com
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Re: urgent aspergers
Dear Shannon, I've only seen single doses causing long suppression when
the potency has been exceptionally high, most others coming from
unnecessary repetition of any potency. In my experience the clients
that I have had who have suppressed through repetition of self dosing
have been buying their rx from outlets that only stock 6c and 30c, i.e.
they tend not to use the homeopathic pharmacies directly (thankfully).
I imagine that will be very different in the US? Best wishes, Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com
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the potency has been exceptionally high, most others coming from
unnecessary repetition of any potency. In my experience the clients
that I have had who have suppressed through repetition of self dosing
have been buying their rx from outlets that only stock 6c and 30c, i.e.
they tend not to use the homeopathic pharmacies directly (thankfully).
I imagine that will be very different in the US? Best wishes, Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.blogspot.com
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Re: urgent aspergers
Why on earth would we
Joy dont be silly now, I was just trying to get a point across
I think we will have to agree to differ as to what constitutes
"bunkum".. There sure is plenty of it about.
You will see what you want to and interpret things as you see them.
The role the experimenter plays in the outcome of the experiment is
one of the most under-discussed subject in homeopathy.
Im sure you do a good job anyway but a bit less arrogance wouldnt go
amiss.
Robin
Joy dont be silly now, I was just trying to get a point across
I think we will have to agree to differ as to what constitutes
"bunkum".. There sure is plenty of it about.
You will see what you want to and interpret things as you see them.
The role the experimenter plays in the outcome of the experiment is
one of the most under-discussed subject in homeopathy.
Im sure you do a good job anyway but a bit less arrogance wouldnt go
amiss.
Robin
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David Little
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Re: urgent aspergers
Hello all,
I think some homoeopaths over emphasize the dangers of suppression but
that does not mean that the suppression syndrome does not exist. Some act
as if everything but their own personal view of the constitutional remedy
is somehow suppressive. Over the last 3 decades I have watched this
phenomena very closely and do not feel this is the case. I would not say
that homeopathic suppression is somehow a much greater a danger than
allopathic suppression unless the remedy is given in excessively high
potencies or in very large amounts and repeated too much. In general, the
duration of a remedy fades naturally, and if there is no serious over
medication, the vital force will redress the situation. Allopathic
suppression is very serious in many cases because the drugs are never
stopped. Drug suppression usually follows more drug suppression until new
pathological is created. If a homeopathic remedy is stopped at the first
signs of a wrong remedy the VF has tendency to self correct. This is why it
is important to test ones remedy closely at the start of the treatment.
Suppression with homoeopathic remedies usually happens from ignoring
the principle of the totality of the symptoms. If one understands the
essential nature of the symptom pattern suppression is not a danger. The
most common cause of suppression is focusing too much on a single symptom
or prescribing on the pathology without assessing the constitutional
concomitant symptoms. Another cause is treating too many pseudo acute
disorders or so-called separate complaints with different remedies while
ignore the deeper underlying chronic condition. A true acute disease or
seriously crisis, however, should be treated in the proper manner. Those
they shy away from good crises management in favor of allopathic
intervention are using reverse logic. They somehow acute homeopathic
treatment is dangerous allopathic suppression of OK! If one follows the
basic principles of case taking in the Organon suppression will not be a
problem. Hahnemann integrated a very care system of checks and balances
into his system. The more these are ignore the more the potential for side
effects is increased.
The signs of healing were elucidated by Hering in his 1845 Preface to
the American Chronic Diseases. In this work he mentions that healing takes
place from within to without, from above to below, from the more important
organs to the lesser important organs, and in the reverse order of the
development of the symptoms. He also pointed out that there is
corresponding improvement in the sense of well and vitality. It was also
stated that the reverse of direction of cure makes up the signs of
suppression. In this case the disease goes from without to within, from
below to above, from lesser important organs to the more important organs,
and new more serious symptoms appear. At the same time there is a decrease
in the sense of well-being and vitality. If one understands the direction
of cure versus the direction of suppression it is easy to understand which
direction a case is progressing.
The three monkey approach to Homoeopathy (see no evil, hear no evil,
speak no evil) does not prevent or solve problems - it just ignores them.
If one educates themselves in the proper method of case taking, posology
and case management homeopathy is very safe and effective. This can only be
done by keeping one's eyes open, ears attuned, and speech balanced so that
one can be an unprejudiced observer. Denial does not solve the problems
inherent in all the healing arts. Knowledge does!
Sincerely, David Little
I think some homoeopaths over emphasize the dangers of suppression but
that does not mean that the suppression syndrome does not exist. Some act
as if everything but their own personal view of the constitutional remedy
is somehow suppressive. Over the last 3 decades I have watched this
phenomena very closely and do not feel this is the case. I would not say
that homeopathic suppression is somehow a much greater a danger than
allopathic suppression unless the remedy is given in excessively high
potencies or in very large amounts and repeated too much. In general, the
duration of a remedy fades naturally, and if there is no serious over
medication, the vital force will redress the situation. Allopathic
suppression is very serious in many cases because the drugs are never
stopped. Drug suppression usually follows more drug suppression until new
pathological is created. If a homeopathic remedy is stopped at the first
signs of a wrong remedy the VF has tendency to self correct. This is why it
is important to test ones remedy closely at the start of the treatment.
Suppression with homoeopathic remedies usually happens from ignoring
the principle of the totality of the symptoms. If one understands the
essential nature of the symptom pattern suppression is not a danger. The
most common cause of suppression is focusing too much on a single symptom
or prescribing on the pathology without assessing the constitutional
concomitant symptoms. Another cause is treating too many pseudo acute
disorders or so-called separate complaints with different remedies while
ignore the deeper underlying chronic condition. A true acute disease or
seriously crisis, however, should be treated in the proper manner. Those
they shy away from good crises management in favor of allopathic
intervention are using reverse logic. They somehow acute homeopathic
treatment is dangerous allopathic suppression of OK! If one follows the
basic principles of case taking in the Organon suppression will not be a
problem. Hahnemann integrated a very care system of checks and balances
into his system. The more these are ignore the more the potential for side
effects is increased.
The signs of healing were elucidated by Hering in his 1845 Preface to
the American Chronic Diseases. In this work he mentions that healing takes
place from within to without, from above to below, from the more important
organs to the lesser important organs, and in the reverse order of the
development of the symptoms. He also pointed out that there is
corresponding improvement in the sense of well and vitality. It was also
stated that the reverse of direction of cure makes up the signs of
suppression. In this case the disease goes from without to within, from
below to above, from lesser important organs to the more important organs,
and new more serious symptoms appear. At the same time there is a decrease
in the sense of well-being and vitality. If one understands the direction
of cure versus the direction of suppression it is easy to understand which
direction a case is progressing.
The three monkey approach to Homoeopathy (see no evil, hear no evil,
speak no evil) does not prevent or solve problems - it just ignores them.
If one educates themselves in the proper method of case taking, posology
and case management homeopathy is very safe and effective. This can only be
done by keeping one's eyes open, ears attuned, and speech balanced so that
one can be an unprejudiced observer. Denial does not solve the problems
inherent in all the healing arts. Knowledge does!
Sincerely, David Little