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Re: Ebola
Hi Maria
I would suggest that smallpox vaccination NEVER 'worked' ,meaning gave immunity, or stopped smallpox. If you are inclined, spend some time delving into this. Wherever the vaccine went, smallpox followed. Cities in England, stopped vaccination and smallpox stopped appearing. And smallpox disappeared in areas of the world that never got the vaccine. Be very careful talking about vaccinations 'working'. And typhus didn't have a vaccine till WWII. Maybe you are thinking of typhoid - no vaccine till 1896 and it was very problematic.
And there was much more that made homeopathy take the back seat than vaccines and germ theory. I will share some of that info in next emails.
People have always known vaccines were problematic and did NOT give immunity and rose up against them since smallpox vaccination started.
Yes, if there truly is an epidemic, I would trust homeopathy.
But again, all this hype and propaganda is the same as with SARS, BIRDFLU, SWINEFLU. And in the 50s and since, the lies about polio and its cause, are in our lifetimes or those of our parents - never proven to be caused by a virus and more-than-likely DDT/pesticide related.
Just wanting to clarify.
Sheri
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I would suggest that smallpox vaccination NEVER 'worked' ,meaning gave immunity, or stopped smallpox. If you are inclined, spend some time delving into this. Wherever the vaccine went, smallpox followed. Cities in England, stopped vaccination and smallpox stopped appearing. And smallpox disappeared in areas of the world that never got the vaccine. Be very careful talking about vaccinations 'working'. And typhus didn't have a vaccine till WWII. Maybe you are thinking of typhoid - no vaccine till 1896 and it was very problematic.
And there was much more that made homeopathy take the back seat than vaccines and germ theory. I will share some of that info in next emails.
People have always known vaccines were problematic and did NOT give immunity and rose up against them since smallpox vaccination started.
Yes, if there truly is an epidemic, I would trust homeopathy.
But again, all this hype and propaganda is the same as with SARS, BIRDFLU, SWINEFLU. And in the 50s and since, the lies about polio and its cause, are in our lifetimes or those of our parents - never proven to be caused by a virus and more-than-likely DDT/pesticide related.
Just wanting to clarify.
Sheri
At 04:59 AM 10/3/2014, you wrote:
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Re: Ebola
Hello Sheri, You are correct about typhus, that should have been Diptheria, the vaccine came in in 1892 -
I was using the book Medicine and Health in New Jersey: A History for my facts on Diptheria and Small Pox. this book is one of the NJ.Historical Series in the Library of Congress.
Do note that I am keeping an open mind on the Small Pox information though. I know these diseases rise and fall with the seasons, etc.
Of interesting note, I have 5 grand children, one is fully vaccinated, 2 have never had a vaccine of any kind, and of the last two only a few vaccines each. These kids are close in age and see interact with each other several times a week.
My fully vaccinated grandson came down with Chicken Pox, an atypical presentation it started all over his back without the fever that usually preceeds the pocks (he had a fever a week before that lasted one day, and yes, I gave him a remedy for that fever). Only the youngest grandchild a lttle more that two years old (never vaccinated) got about 5 pocks in the diaper area that went un noticed until just before they were fully healed - she had been fusy for one day. No one else got any pocks at all. The county health department went crazy, said they had to notify all unvaccinated children and called the school, they put the young man out for two weeks, he was not even sick and had a wonderful time for that two weeks.
So, do I believe the vaccinations are promoting a lot of diseases? Absolutely!!
Warmly, Maria
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I was using the book Medicine and Health in New Jersey: A History for my facts on Diptheria and Small Pox. this book is one of the NJ.Historical Series in the Library of Congress.
Do note that I am keeping an open mind on the Small Pox information though. I know these diseases rise and fall with the seasons, etc.
Of interesting note, I have 5 grand children, one is fully vaccinated, 2 have never had a vaccine of any kind, and of the last two only a few vaccines each. These kids are close in age and see interact with each other several times a week.
My fully vaccinated grandson came down with Chicken Pox, an atypical presentation it started all over his back without the fever that usually preceeds the pocks (he had a fever a week before that lasted one day, and yes, I gave him a remedy for that fever). Only the youngest grandchild a lttle more that two years old (never vaccinated) got about 5 pocks in the diaper area that went un noticed until just before they were fully healed - she had been fusy for one day. No one else got any pocks at all. The county health department went crazy, said they had to notify all unvaccinated children and called the school, they put the young man out for two weeks, he was not even sick and had a wonderful time for that two weeks.
So, do I believe the vaccinations are promoting a lot of diseases? Absolutely!!
Warmly, Maria
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Re: Ebola
LOTS of info on all these 'scares' - http://www.whale.to/a/infectious_scares.html
http://www.greatbirdfluhoax.com/
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/day4.html
http://drtenpenny.com/fowl-bird-flu-its ... you-think/
Air Pollution and these illnesses - http://www.whale.to/a/west_h.html
http://www.whale.to/a/west.html
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/swine_flu_panic.html
And then there are the lies about HIV and AIDS
Test kits, drugs, vaccines - sound familiar?
Well.....................there is so much that could be said - biological weapon? very vulnerable populations? contaminated water? poor diet? parasites?
Biological weapons from Marburg 'virus'?
http://www.whale.to/w/ebola.html (not in total agreement with all the Len Horowitz writes, but food for thought):
HOROWITZ: Yes, indeed. They published studies, for example, John Landon who was director of Litton Bionetics, and he had taken what was called Rabdo virus, or rabies type of viruses, called rabdo viruses simian, and I show in the book that the worlds leading expert in identifying and diagnosing these new viruses---actually they called them emerging viruses back then ---they had the contract for being the number one person to tell us what type of viruses these were. As I said before they were recombining, they were mutating, there were different combinations so it was very difficult to understand which was which. Well he himself, we have published his statement to a conference, late 1960's, shortly after the Marburg virus outbreak, the mother of Ebola, which broke out in 3 vaccine production facilities simultaneously in 1967, in Europe. Shortly thereafter he gets up in a symposium and says "I believe that this Simian Virus is man made". That is a quote, and so you have the worlds leading expert at the time who had the contract for the NCI to tell all other doctors what types of viruses they are, saying this, so it is not just me saying this. But then, what happened was in the Special Cancer Virus Programme book, John Landon says that he took 18 Simian monkeys in about 1965/66 through 1970 this experiment ran, and he inoculated 18 Simian monkeys with rabdo virus simian which again all, most of the leading experts, the consensus was that the Marburg which was the mother of Ebola, that that originated from Rabdo virus Simian. Here was a study, John Landon took 18 Simian monkeys, inoculated them with rabdo virus simian and then 9 of them died and 9 of them he said were transferred. Now everyone that has seen the movie outbreak knows that the monkeys that lived developed antibodies to the infection, and those were the monkeys that were very valuable to vaccine development and those were the monkeys that were shipped off to the vaccine development labs, so I actually site in the book the most plausible study which gave rise to the first Marburg virus outbreak in 1967.
and http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienc ... ions06.htm
and http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/ ... bola-zone/
and is it introduced into Africa in other vaccines?
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/ - recently much info on 'ebola'
Sheri
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http://www.greatbirdfluhoax.com/
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/day4.html
http://drtenpenny.com/fowl-bird-flu-its ... you-think/
Air Pollution and these illnesses - http://www.whale.to/a/west_h.html
http://www.whale.to/a/west.html
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/swine_flu_panic.html
And then there are the lies about HIV and AIDS
Test kits, drugs, vaccines - sound familiar?
Well.....................there is so much that could be said - biological weapon? very vulnerable populations? contaminated water? poor diet? parasites?
Biological weapons from Marburg 'virus'?
http://www.whale.to/w/ebola.html (not in total agreement with all the Len Horowitz writes, but food for thought):
HOROWITZ: Yes, indeed. They published studies, for example, John Landon who was director of Litton Bionetics, and he had taken what was called Rabdo virus, or rabies type of viruses, called rabdo viruses simian, and I show in the book that the worlds leading expert in identifying and diagnosing these new viruses---actually they called them emerging viruses back then ---they had the contract for being the number one person to tell us what type of viruses these were. As I said before they were recombining, they were mutating, there were different combinations so it was very difficult to understand which was which. Well he himself, we have published his statement to a conference, late 1960's, shortly after the Marburg virus outbreak, the mother of Ebola, which broke out in 3 vaccine production facilities simultaneously in 1967, in Europe. Shortly thereafter he gets up in a symposium and says "I believe that this Simian Virus is man made". That is a quote, and so you have the worlds leading expert at the time who had the contract for the NCI to tell all other doctors what types of viruses they are, saying this, so it is not just me saying this. But then, what happened was in the Special Cancer Virus Programme book, John Landon says that he took 18 Simian monkeys in about 1965/66 through 1970 this experiment ran, and he inoculated 18 Simian monkeys with rabdo virus simian which again all, most of the leading experts, the consensus was that the Marburg which was the mother of Ebola, that that originated from Rabdo virus Simian. Here was a study, John Landon took 18 Simian monkeys, inoculated them with rabdo virus simian and then 9 of them died and 9 of them he said were transferred. Now everyone that has seen the movie outbreak knows that the monkeys that lived developed antibodies to the infection, and those were the monkeys that were very valuable to vaccine development and those were the monkeys that were shipped off to the vaccine development labs, so I actually site in the book the most plausible study which gave rise to the first Marburg virus outbreak in 1967.
and http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienc ... ions06.htm
and http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/ ... bola-zone/
and is it introduced into Africa in other vaccines?
http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/ - recently much info on 'ebola'
Sheri
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Re: Ebola
Now if you seriously want to fear an epidemic look at vaccines and autism and alzheimers and auto-immune and neurological illness. That is demonstrated in huge numbers every day and no one cares except the families and few of the rest of us.
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Re: Ebola
Hi Maria
I meant to include the link to John's pages on smallpox which are filled with huge numbers of documents spelling it out
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html spend an afternoon there (if you have a free one!)
and much on diphtheria vaccine which did nothing
http://www.whale.to/a/diptheria2.html
yes vaccines are spreading disease, especially among the vaccinated/immune-impaired.
And just and FYI - may want to relook at giving even remedies 'for fever'. We do not need to treat a fever or lower a fever. The body knows what it is doing. ALLOW and CELEBRATE fevers!
http://www.wellwithin1.com/fever.htm
Thanks for sharing your family stories
Sheri
At 11:26 AM 10/3/2014, you wrote:
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I meant to include the link to John's pages on smallpox which are filled with huge numbers of documents spelling it out
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html spend an afternoon there (if you have a free one!)
and much on diphtheria vaccine which did nothing
http://www.whale.to/a/diptheria2.html
yes vaccines are spreading disease, especially among the vaccinated/immune-impaired.
And just and FYI - may want to relook at giving even remedies 'for fever'. We do not need to treat a fever or lower a fever. The body knows what it is doing. ALLOW and CELEBRATE fevers!
http://www.wellwithin1.com/fever.htm
Thanks for sharing your family stories
Sheri
At 11:26 AM 10/3/2014, you wrote:
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Re: Ebola
Why do people always revert to conspiracy theories regarding the existence of bad viruses?
This assumes that biotechnology is a lot more advanced than it presently is. A plasmid, even if man made is still very difficult to get implanted into DNA, and they tend to be relatively short. Viruses are very complex and a retrovirus is even more so. RNA is extremely delicate, so I can't see any scientists making a virus, let alone a retrovirus that will be successfully implanted the way the conspiracy theorists say. If they were smart enough to creat the virus, then the technology would exists to offset it.
Nope.
Angie
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This assumes that biotechnology is a lot more advanced than it presently is. A plasmid, even if man made is still very difficult to get implanted into DNA, and they tend to be relatively short. Viruses are very complex and a retrovirus is even more so. RNA is extremely delicate, so I can't see any scientists making a virus, let alone a retrovirus that will be successfully implanted the way the conspiracy theorists say. If they were smart enough to creat the virus, then the technology would exists to offset it.
Nope.
Angie
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Re: Ebola
I love this - revert to conspiracy theories - just because it is something you do not know about or the powers that be want to ridicule, does not mean we deserve such labels. It is a way to denigrate those of us who think outside the box and think for ourselves and have investigated more deeply than those who listen to mainstream media.
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Oh really. So glad you know all about it. Seems you might need to read a little more.
Sheri
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At 10:35 PM 10/3/2014, you wrote:
Oh really. So glad you know all about it. Seems you might need to read a little more.
Sheri
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Re: Ebola
It is a conspiracy theory that another friend has mentioned about HIV and Ebola being manufactured. I hear all the latest conspiracy theories. However, biotech was not that sophisticated over 30 years ago to invent an Ebola virus in1976, and at around 1982 for HIV. They didn't even know what a retrovirus was until like 20 years or so ago at which point they were able to develop protease inhibitors based on that knowledge.
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Re: Ebola
Don’t be so sure of yourself Angie. There was a man who had access to govt documents (lawyer & engineer). He discovered an ongoing 20 yr
research project that developed a virus with the exact structure of HIV. There were annual reports. This study cont’d until suddenly AIDS was
‘discovered.’ There is also a lot more govt sponsored research on diseases that is pretty sinister.
The history of retroviruses in animals goes back many decades. An article by Gallo talks of his work on trying to id human retroviruses back in the
mid-1970’s. That was about 40 yrs ago. It predated the discovery of HIV which came of his research which was looking for human retroviruses.
Apparently work on human retorviruses was ongoing in Japan at the same time according to this article by Gallo.
As for Ebola, no one said it was a totally man made virus. What is on the table is how the govt has been able to take a wild virus and make a
similar/matching one. This gives it control for bioweaponry and depopulation maneuverings. I think biotech was more advanced and sinister
than you recognize. The history of is use for genocidal purposes is quite old actually and the Govt labs that control all sorts of toxic microorganisms
also has a very old history at this point. It wasn’t only the Bushes that supported eugenics but people like Bertrand Russell and Adelaide Stevenson
and his wife—a few names that pop into my mine. I believe that even Margaret Sanger was motivated by population control of those not deemed
worthy in her elitist mind.
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research project that developed a virus with the exact structure of HIV. There were annual reports. This study cont’d until suddenly AIDS was
‘discovered.’ There is also a lot more govt sponsored research on diseases that is pretty sinister.
The history of retroviruses in animals goes back many decades. An article by Gallo talks of his work on trying to id human retroviruses back in the
mid-1970’s. That was about 40 yrs ago. It predated the discovery of HIV which came of his research which was looking for human retroviruses.
Apparently work on human retorviruses was ongoing in Japan at the same time according to this article by Gallo.
As for Ebola, no one said it was a totally man made virus. What is on the table is how the govt has been able to take a wild virus and make a
similar/matching one. This gives it control for bioweaponry and depopulation maneuverings. I think biotech was more advanced and sinister
than you recognize. The history of is use for genocidal purposes is quite old actually and the Govt labs that control all sorts of toxic microorganisms
also has a very old history at this point. It wasn’t only the Bushes that supported eugenics but people like Bertrand Russell and Adelaide Stevenson
and his wife—a few names that pop into my mine. I believe that even Margaret Sanger was motivated by population control of those not deemed
worthy in her elitist mind.
t
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