At 07:40 AM 11/17/2004 -0500, you wrote:
And again, it isn't always something subconsciously perceived as a threat.
It can be physiologically caused by medications, drugs, chemicals,
vaccinations - so many things - many of which don't help us find the cure
(although stopping some of them may be enough to make the attacks stop -
but not always)
Sheri
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anxiety attacks
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: anxiety attacks
Hi Sheri,
I definitely agree with you that the right remedy is way better than these
other things we've suggested! But at the same time, having personally been
thru *looooong* periods (with myself, my daughter and my mother) where that
"right remedy" has been maddenly elusive, it's also useful to have back-up
ideas. When one *knows* of factors that might be involved, is it wrong to
share them? (Keeping in mind, of course, that it's not quite on-topic and
detailed discussions are better done off-list.)
Shannon
on 11/17/04 11:10 AM, Sheri Nakken at homeopathycures@tesco.net wrote:
I definitely agree with you that the right remedy is way better than these
other things we've suggested! But at the same time, having personally been
thru *looooong* periods (with myself, my daughter and my mother) where that
"right remedy" has been maddenly elusive, it's also useful to have back-up
ideas. When one *knows* of factors that might be involved, is it wrong to
share them? (Keeping in mind, of course, that it's not quite on-topic and
detailed discussions are better done off-list.)
Shannon
on 11/17/04 11:10 AM, Sheri Nakken at homeopathycures@tesco.net wrote:
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Sheri Nakken
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Re: anxiety attacks
No, but it sounded like from the post that this was a response to, that all
you had to do was relax.
And that is what I was responding too. I hear this kind of advice far too
often.
And when personally going through this, maybe it helped some, but nothing
like the cure.
And when I was trying to 'figure out' everything - magnesium, calcium,
adrenals and on and on........it really helped nothing.
The remedy was the ONLY thing that worked. And like he says in Aphorism 1
- we are only deluding ourselves if we think we can figure it out. So, I
keep coming back to the remedy.
And that is what this post was responding to......
This one.......especially this statement ">The best relief that can be had
is to physically relax all the muscles in the
body
been
with a
breath is
contract.
vital
So
minutes,
the
body
At 11:54 AM 11/17/2004 -0600, you wrote:
and
regarding the
punitive
and educational benefit of its members. It makes no representations
regarding the individual suitability of the information contained in any
document read or advice or recommendation offered which appears on this
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you had to do was relax.
And that is what I was responding too. I hear this kind of advice far too
often.
And when personally going through this, maybe it helped some, but nothing
like the cure.
And when I was trying to 'figure out' everything - magnesium, calcium,
adrenals and on and on........it really helped nothing.
The remedy was the ONLY thing that worked. And like he says in Aphorism 1
- we are only deluding ourselves if we think we can figure it out. So, I
keep coming back to the remedy.
And that is what this post was responding to......
This one.......especially this statement ">The best relief that can be had
is to physically relax all the muscles in the
body
been
with a
breath is
contract.
vital
So
minutes,
the
body
At 11:54 AM 11/17/2004 -0600, you wrote:
and
regarding the
punitive
and educational benefit of its members. It makes no representations
regarding the individual suitability of the information contained in any
document read or advice or recommendation offered which appears on this
website and/or email postings for any purpose. The entire risk arising out
of their use remains with the recipient. In no event shall the minutus site
or its individual members be liable for any direct, consequential,
incidental, special, punitive or other damages whatsoever and howsoever
caused.
subject of 'Digest' to minutusgroup@yahoo.com to receive a single daily
digest.
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Well Within & Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours (worldwide)
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Re: anxiety attacks
For acute episodes, I have found the best temporary treatment to be
Rescue Remedy mixed in the same bottle with Acon, taken PRN.
The cases of anxiety disorders I've treated have taken considerable
time to fully resolve, with slow improvement along the way.
Discovering that which is overwhelming the person is paramount,
though it may not necessarily be a single stressor, but rather a
concept, such as fearing the future and all that that might involve
(ending up alone, suffering poor health, poverty, etc).
Since panic attacks can occur at any time, it's sometimes not useful
to try and use whatever event was occuring at the time of the
attack, but to simply treat the acute. The underlying impetus is
always a deep fear and/or delusion. A good case-taking will reveal
a pattern of fears and anxieties, pointing to the right remedy.
Some patients suffer a generalized free-floating anxiety nearly
every minute of every day and can no longer identify what started
it. Other patients know what their triggers are (traffic, crowds,
long lines, high-pressure multi-tasking, etc.), but the triggers
don't necessarily lead to the remedy, though they may suggest the
underlying theme, *if* the homeopath digs deeply enough.
Case in point: I had a middle-age woman with generalized anxiety and
who suffered full-blown panic attacks usually in the kitchen and at
the grocery store. Probing revealed that she was extremely fearful
of losing a family member and, as a result, spent an inordinate
amount of time preparing nothing but healthy meals and snacks,
shopping for the best, organic ingredients, buying supplements,
spending a fortune, and devoting herself to keeping her family
healthy. The kitchen and the grocery store represented the two
places where she placed the most demands on herself relative to
warding off loss of loved ones. In addition, the store is where she
had to shell out all the money she spent on the process. Naturally,
there are no rubrics on panicking in the kitchen or grocery store,
but the theme of anxiety over the health of family and the money she
was spending are what ultimately led to the rx.
Toni
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robert&Shannon Nelson
wrote:
than these
personally been
where that
back-up
wrong to
topic and
most
we found
relax,
didn't get
remedy that
that we call
often
exciting factors
you cannot
years. Nothing
she is
nuts trying to
to assist
symptoms that she
---
Homoeopathy and
regarding the
document read or
and/or email
use remains
individual
special, punitive
with the
daily
Rescue Remedy mixed in the same bottle with Acon, taken PRN.
The cases of anxiety disorders I've treated have taken considerable
time to fully resolve, with slow improvement along the way.
Discovering that which is overwhelming the person is paramount,
though it may not necessarily be a single stressor, but rather a
concept, such as fearing the future and all that that might involve
(ending up alone, suffering poor health, poverty, etc).
Since panic attacks can occur at any time, it's sometimes not useful
to try and use whatever event was occuring at the time of the
attack, but to simply treat the acute. The underlying impetus is
always a deep fear and/or delusion. A good case-taking will reveal
a pattern of fears and anxieties, pointing to the right remedy.
Some patients suffer a generalized free-floating anxiety nearly
every minute of every day and can no longer identify what started
it. Other patients know what their triggers are (traffic, crowds,
long lines, high-pressure multi-tasking, etc.), but the triggers
don't necessarily lead to the remedy, though they may suggest the
underlying theme, *if* the homeopath digs deeply enough.
Case in point: I had a middle-age woman with generalized anxiety and
who suffered full-blown panic attacks usually in the kitchen and at
the grocery store. Probing revealed that she was extremely fearful
of losing a family member and, as a result, spent an inordinate
amount of time preparing nothing but healthy meals and snacks,
shopping for the best, organic ingredients, buying supplements,
spending a fortune, and devoting herself to keeping her family
healthy. The kitchen and the grocery store represented the two
places where she placed the most demands on herself relative to
warding off loss of loved ones. In addition, the store is where she
had to shell out all the money she spent on the process. Naturally,
there are no rubrics on panicking in the kitchen or grocery store,
but the theme of anxiety over the health of family and the money she
was spending are what ultimately led to the rx.
Toni
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Robert&Shannon Nelson
wrote:
than these
personally been
where that
back-up
wrong to
topic and
most
we found
relax,
didn't get
remedy that
that we call
often
exciting factors
you cannot
years. Nothing
she is
nuts trying to
to assist
symptoms that she
---
Homoeopathy and
regarding the
document read or
and/or email
use remains
individual
special, punitive
with the
daily
Re: anxiety attacks
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Sheri Nakken
wrote:
can be had
reduces the
And so the
I suspect that this advice is meant for use during the acute
episodes, as controlling hyperventilation is important. Combined
with RR/Acon, it works pretty well in the moment. But getting to
the root of the derangement requires the simillimum.
Toni
wrote:
can be had
reduces the
And so the
I suspect that this advice is meant for use during the acute
episodes, as controlling hyperventilation is important. Combined
with RR/Acon, it works pretty well in the moment. But getting to
the root of the derangement requires the simillimum.
Toni
Re: anxiety attacks
I agree. This was just a very simple description of the mechanism. I would
be searching for the appropriate remedy for this patient too. And yes, you
are correct most of the psychological "tools" do not offer extensive relief.
Relaxation of the muscle groups allows the body to return to stasis was, again,
just a simple example. This is why the diazepams were the darling drugs of
psychiatry for a long while.
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be searching for the appropriate remedy for this patient too. And yes, you
are correct most of the psychological "tools" do not offer extensive relief.
Relaxation of the muscle groups allows the body to return to stasis was, again,
just a simple example. This is why the diazepams were the darling drugs of
psychiatry for a long while.
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Jeremy Crowley
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- Joined: Thu Sep 12, 2002 10:00 pm
Re: anxiety attacks
If palpitations are a major 'symptom' of an anxiety atack it may be worth
looking at the TMJ, Temporal mandibular joint - The jaw joint.
The Vegas nerve controls the heart and many other organs and travels very
close to the TMJ. Problems here can directly cause palpitations, with the
anxiety being a symptom of the palpitations, not the other way round. If the
patient has any clicking or pain in the jaw, history of injury or lots of dental
work, or the need to clench their teeth to get any strength in their muscles,
think about adressing it, with remedies (cocculus can be very effective),or
co-operating with a good dentist using Occlusal splints(like a gum shield) or
some form of bodywork. The Bowen technique or NST are particularly good with
TMJ problems.
look at_www.bter.org_ (http://www.bter.org)
or
_www.nsthealth.com_ (http://www.nsthealth.com)
or my site
_www.birminghamhomeopath.co.uk/_ (http://www.birminghamhomeopath.co.uk/)
Michael Nixon Livvy who owns the NST site suplies an excelent Occlusal
splint called a T4u which is moulded to fit in boiling water
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looking at the TMJ, Temporal mandibular joint - The jaw joint.
The Vegas nerve controls the heart and many other organs and travels very
close to the TMJ. Problems here can directly cause palpitations, with the
anxiety being a symptom of the palpitations, not the other way round. If the
patient has any clicking or pain in the jaw, history of injury or lots of dental
work, or the need to clench their teeth to get any strength in their muscles,
think about adressing it, with remedies (cocculus can be very effective),or
co-operating with a good dentist using Occlusal splints(like a gum shield) or
some form of bodywork. The Bowen technique or NST are particularly good with
TMJ problems.
look at_www.bter.org_ (http://www.bter.org)
or
_www.nsthealth.com_ (http://www.nsthealth.com)
or my site
_www.birminghamhomeopath.co.uk/_ (http://www.birminghamhomeopath.co.uk/)
Michael Nixon Livvy who owns the NST site suplies an excelent Occlusal
splint called a T4u which is moulded to fit in boiling water
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