Dear Dimitri
You asked
"Is it possible to use a mixture of remedies in homeopathy?"
The answer is NO!
That is certainly not homoeopathy.
The fact that something is made by a 'homoeopathic' pharmacy does not make
it homoeopathic.
The only time a remedy prescribed is proved to be homoeopathic is when it is
selected based on the principle of SYMPTOM SIMILARITY and based on
information from provings etc and that subsequently the patient improves
and is cured.
It also needs to be prescribed on an individualised basis.
Even in epidemic 'acute' treatment where perhaps there is a choice from a
narrow band of remedies, the right remedy is selected on the basis of the
way the symptoms of the patient are showing themselves.
So combo remedies are unproved and therefore there is no 'homoeopathic'
justification in their use. They are for treatment of a disease rather than
the person!
Such combination remedies in my opinion may, if one is lucky have one
component which may help with some of the symptoms, but then leads to
confusion of the case and would cause difficulty in the chronic case
management.
Additionally some people have seen remedies such as Hepar Sulph etc and
think that these are combination remedies. They are NOT because the remedy
made from that compound has been proved so it is a single remedy.
As to your second question " is it possible to give a remedy for a week (for
a chronical problem), then the next day give another remedy"
The answer is that if the case demands a change of remedy, then there is not
reason not to change.
However it is not appropriate for the patient to be told after the
consultation, take A for a week and then switch to B etc.
Each change needs to be clinically justified and be suited to the patients
symptoms at the time of change.
Hope this has been of help to you.
Best wishes
Soroush
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:31:39 -0800 (PST)
From: dimitri rolf
Subject: remedy mixture
hello all list members,
i have a question about a German company(the name will be given if
requested) which sells on the market a "flu and cold remedy" which is a
combination of 5 remedies(acon D4, bryon D4,lach D12, eupat perfol D3, phos
D5). The company claims that it accelerates the cure of colds and flues,
reliefs, and strengthens the immune system.
My questions are:
Is it possible to use a mixture of remedies in homeopathy?
And, is it possible to give a remedy for a week(for a chronical problem),
then the next day give another remedy(for another problem, for a few days)
and then directly continue with the previous remedy(for the chronic problem)
?
Remedy Mixtures (Combination Remedies)
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Remedy Mixtures (Combination Remedies)
Hi Soroush,
thanks for response, it is really helpful to me!
You said: "So combo remedies are unproved and therefore there is no 'homoeopathic'
justification in their use. They are for treatment of a disease rather than
the person!
Such combination remedies in my opinion may, if one is lucky have one
component which may help with some of the symptoms, but then leads to
confusion of the case and would cause difficulty in the chronic case
management."
By reading this, i've thought of another question: what if a patient is given the second or third best remedy for his/her problem? Will the patient have any improvement?
thanks again,
dimitri
Finrod wrote:
Dear Dimitri
You asked
"Is it possible to use a mixture of remedies in homeopathy?"
The answer is NO!
That is certainly not homoeopathy.
The fact that something is made by a 'homoeopathic' pharmacy does not make
it homoeopathic.
The only time a remedy prescribed is proved to be homoeopathic is when it is
selected based on the principle of SYMPTOM SIMILARITY and based on
information from provings etc and that subsequently the patient improves
and is cured.
It also needs to be prescribed on an individualised basis.
Even in epidemic 'acute' treatment where perhaps there is a choice from a
narrow band of remedies, the right remedy is selected on the basis of the
way the symptoms of the patient are showing themselves.
So combo remedies are unproved and therefore there is no 'homoeopathic'
justification in their use. They are for treatment of a disease rather than
the person!
Such combination remedies in my opinion may, if one is lucky have one
component which may help with some of the symptoms, but then leads to
confusion of the case and would cause difficulty in the chronic case
management.
Additionally some people have seen remedies such as Hepar Sulph etc and
think that these are combination remedies. They are NOT because the remedy
made from that compound has been proved so it is a single remedy.
As to your second question " is it possible to give a remedy for a week (for
a chronical problem), then the next day give another remedy"
The answer is that if the case demands a change of remedy, then there is not
reason not to change.
However it is not appropriate for the patient to be told after the
consultation, take A for a week and then switch to B etc.
Each change needs to be clinically justified and be suited to the patients
symptoms at the time of change.
Hope this has been of help to you.
Best wishes
Soroush
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:31:39 -0800 (PST)
From: dimitri rolf
Subject: remedy mixture
hello all list members,
i have a question about a German company(the name will be given if
requested) which sells on the market a "flu and cold remedy" which is a
combination of 5 remedies(acon D4, bryon D4,lach D12, eupat perfol D3, phos
D5). The company claims that it accelerates the cure of colds and flues,
reliefs, and strengthens the immune system.
My questions are:
Is it possible to use a mixture of remedies in homeopathy?
And, is it possible to give a remedy for a week(for a chronical problem),
then the next day give another remedy(for another problem, for a few days)
and then directly continue with the previous remedy(for the chronic problem)
?
Clinical Guidance for Homeopaths and Students of Homeopathy!
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thanks for response, it is really helpful to me!
You said: "So combo remedies are unproved and therefore there is no 'homoeopathic'
justification in their use. They are for treatment of a disease rather than
the person!
Such combination remedies in my opinion may, if one is lucky have one
component which may help with some of the symptoms, but then leads to
confusion of the case and would cause difficulty in the chronic case
management."
By reading this, i've thought of another question: what if a patient is given the second or third best remedy for his/her problem? Will the patient have any improvement?
thanks again,
dimitri
Finrod wrote:
Dear Dimitri
You asked
"Is it possible to use a mixture of remedies in homeopathy?"
The answer is NO!
That is certainly not homoeopathy.
The fact that something is made by a 'homoeopathic' pharmacy does not make
it homoeopathic.
The only time a remedy prescribed is proved to be homoeopathic is when it is
selected based on the principle of SYMPTOM SIMILARITY and based on
information from provings etc and that subsequently the patient improves
and is cured.
It also needs to be prescribed on an individualised basis.
Even in epidemic 'acute' treatment where perhaps there is a choice from a
narrow band of remedies, the right remedy is selected on the basis of the
way the symptoms of the patient are showing themselves.
So combo remedies are unproved and therefore there is no 'homoeopathic'
justification in their use. They are for treatment of a disease rather than
the person!
Such combination remedies in my opinion may, if one is lucky have one
component which may help with some of the symptoms, but then leads to
confusion of the case and would cause difficulty in the chronic case
management.
Additionally some people have seen remedies such as Hepar Sulph etc and
think that these are combination remedies. They are NOT because the remedy
made from that compound has been proved so it is a single remedy.
As to your second question " is it possible to give a remedy for a week (for
a chronical problem), then the next day give another remedy"
The answer is that if the case demands a change of remedy, then there is not
reason not to change.
However it is not appropriate for the patient to be told after the
consultation, take A for a week and then switch to B etc.
Each change needs to be clinically justified and be suited to the patients
symptoms at the time of change.
Hope this has been of help to you.
Best wishes
Soroush
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 05:31:39 -0800 (PST)
From: dimitri rolf
Subject: remedy mixture
hello all list members,
i have a question about a German company(the name will be given if
requested) which sells on the market a "flu and cold remedy" which is a
combination of 5 remedies(acon D4, bryon D4,lach D12, eupat perfol D3, phos
D5). The company claims that it accelerates the cure of colds and flues,
reliefs, and strengthens the immune system.
My questions are:
Is it possible to use a mixture of remedies in homeopathy?
And, is it possible to give a remedy for a week(for a chronical problem),
then the next day give another remedy(for another problem, for a few days)
and then directly continue with the previous remedy(for the chronic problem)
?
Clinical Guidance for Homeopaths and Students of Homeopathy!
http://www.shahrdarhost.net/Clinical%20Guidance.htm
ATTENTION PLEASE:
The Minutus Group is established purely for the promotion of Homoeopathy and educational benefit of its members. It makes no representations regarding the individual suitability of the information contained in any document read or advice or recommendation offered which appears on this website and/or email postings for any purpose. The entire risk arising out of their use remains with the recipient. In no event shall the minutus site or its individual members be liable for any direct, consequential, incidental, special, punitive or other damages whatsoever and howsoever caused.
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Re: Remedy Mixtures (Combination Remedies)
At 1:49 PM -0800 1/16/05, dimitri rolf wrote:
[snip]
We might be looking at the simile VS the simillimum. There are many
cases where the "almost best" does help.
Dr. Panos once told me that given a generalized case of diarrhea,
Arsenicum will often be of help. Of course, if it IS the remedy
needed, cure will be fast. If it the "close-enough-icum" the recovery
will be slower but will happen.
JW
[snip]
We might be looking at the simile VS the simillimum. There are many
cases where the "almost best" does help.
Dr. Panos once told me that given a generalized case of diarrhea,
Arsenicum will often be of help. Of course, if it IS the remedy
needed, cure will be fast. If it the "close-enough-icum" the recovery
will be slower but will happen.
JW
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Re: Remedy Mixtures (Combination Remedies)
Dear Dimitri
First question is what do you mean by second or third 'best' remedy? I guess
you mean something that is close to the Similimum.
I guess you are still talking about acute cases.
In my opinion, in an acute case, a second or third 'best' remedy will have
little effect, but it will not be curative. In most cases there will be no
reaction.
Imagine giving Bell in place of Aconite!
In acute cases, the demand rate of the vital force is high - that is reason
that the remedy may have to be repeated often until it holds and there is
great improvement.
In acute cases, the remedy (I usually use 30 or 200 C) should be given in
water (one pill in 150-200 ml of water) and the patient takes a small sip or
a teaspoonful of the remedy and before the next dose the bottle is succussed
10 times.
My rule is that if the remedy has had no effect after 4th or 5th try, it is
time to rethink the case. If the first dose has had no effect after 10 - 15
minutes, it can be repeated.
However in chronic cases, a second or third best remedy may do no work
whatsoever or it may work partially. At least in chronic cases you have some
time to see what happens. In acutes you do not have that benefit.
Best wishes
Soroush
Message: 18
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:49:45 -0800 (PST)
From: dimitri rolf
Subject: Re: Remedy Mixtures (Combination Remedies)
Hi Soroush,
thanks for response, it is really helpful to me!
You said: "So combo remedies are unproved and therefore there is no
'homoeopathic'
justification in their use. They are for treatment of a disease rather than
the person!
Such combination remedies in my opinion may, if one is lucky have one
component which may help with some of the symptoms, but then leads to
confusion of the case and would cause difficulty in the chronic case
management."
By reading this, i've thought of another question: what if a patient is
given the second or third best remedy for his/her problem? Will the patient
have any improvement?
thanks again,
dimitri
First question is what do you mean by second or third 'best' remedy? I guess
you mean something that is close to the Similimum.
I guess you are still talking about acute cases.
In my opinion, in an acute case, a second or third 'best' remedy will have
little effect, but it will not be curative. In most cases there will be no
reaction.
Imagine giving Bell in place of Aconite!
In acute cases, the demand rate of the vital force is high - that is reason
that the remedy may have to be repeated often until it holds and there is
great improvement.
In acute cases, the remedy (I usually use 30 or 200 C) should be given in
water (one pill in 150-200 ml of water) and the patient takes a small sip or
a teaspoonful of the remedy and before the next dose the bottle is succussed
10 times.
My rule is that if the remedy has had no effect after 4th or 5th try, it is
time to rethink the case. If the first dose has had no effect after 10 - 15
minutes, it can be repeated.
However in chronic cases, a second or third best remedy may do no work
whatsoever or it may work partially. At least in chronic cases you have some
time to see what happens. In acutes you do not have that benefit.
Best wishes
Soroush
Message: 18
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:49:45 -0800 (PST)
From: dimitri rolf
Subject: Re: Remedy Mixtures (Combination Remedies)
Hi Soroush,
thanks for response, it is really helpful to me!
You said: "So combo remedies are unproved and therefore there is no
'homoeopathic'
justification in their use. They are for treatment of a disease rather than
the person!
Such combination remedies in my opinion may, if one is lucky have one
component which may help with some of the symptoms, but then leads to
confusion of the case and would cause difficulty in the chronic case
management."
By reading this, i've thought of another question: what if a patient is
given the second or third best remedy for his/her problem? Will the patient
have any improvement?
thanks again,
dimitri