need help with colitis patient

[Tamara Der-Ohanian]

I have a 26 year old female patient who came to me for lack of energy,
overweight and PMS.
She had colitis from age 9 - 24 and had been on 'prednizone' many times.
The weight gain was a side effect of the drug. She had managed to keep
the colitis under control naturally (without drugs) for 2 years before
she came to me.

I gave her Merc-s 12C - similimum for the case. After only 4 doses (4
days in a row) her colitis symptoms returned. She has severe cramps,
diarrhea (worse at night, comes on with throbbing in the rectum), her
ankles are extremely swollen and she can hardly stand on them. Her
diarrhea (with lots of mucus and some blood) is so bad that she has not
made it to the bathroom on a few occasions. I asked her to stop taking
the remedy right away, but she has been like this for about 2 weeks now.
The cramps are more tolerable now, but the rest of the symptoms are
not going away.

I'm thinking of antidoting the Merc-s, or giving another remedy, but at
the same time I'm afraid of giving her any remedies because of her
reaction to the Merc-s.

Any suggestions??
Thanks,
Tamara

[Patricia Hatherly]

Dear Tamara

You have described Merc-s as the simillimum so it would perhaps not be a
good idea to abandon it so soon since it appears she has a full-blown
homoeopathic aggravation.
I think the dose was perhaps too physiological for her and you might like to
try one dose of 30c (or perhaps one dose of 200C) followed by placebo then
wait and watch. The fact that there has been some improvement immediatelly
following cessation of the Rx is a good sign.

regards
Patricia

[Dr.Naval Kumar]

Dear Tamara
please check the patient for s uric acid and urine microscopic to see any
pathological changes if there is any increase in pathology it means
selection was wrong, if not it is slight medicinal aggravation it will take
30 to 45 days to subside

regards
Dr Naval kumar
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[Howard A Asinoff]

I suggest Ars.6-30c
In somewhat less severe cases I have repeatedly seen:
1-the sx's cease or greatly diminish
2-quite notable increased energy levels
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:44:57 -0700 Tamara Der-Ohanian
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[Tamara Der-Ohanian]

Thanks Dr. Kumar. I don't know what the uric acid levels were before,
so I cannot determine increase in pathology this way.
Tamara

Dr.Naval Kumar wrote:
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[Tamara Der-Ohanian]

Thank you. When you gave Ars. to your patient, did they have both the
intestinal symptoms (pain and diarrhea) and inflammation of joints?
When I repertorize the diarrhea sxs, Aloe comes up more than Ars.
Tamara

howard a asinoff wrote:
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[Luise Kunkle]

Hi Tamara, list:

From Hahnemann's "Chronic Diseases" (Theoretical Part, page 119/120)

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quote

Least of all, need we to be concerned when the usual customary
symptoms are aggravated and show most prominently on the first days,
and again on some of the following days, but gradually less and less.
This so-called homoeopathic aggravation is a sign of an incipient cure
(of the symptoms thus aggravated at present), which may be expected
with certainty.Least of all, need we to be concerned when the usual
customary symptoms are aggravated and show most prominently on the
first days, and again on some of the following days, but gradually
less and less. This so-called homoeopathic aggravation is a sign of an
incipient cure (of the symptoms thus aggravated at present), which may
be expected with certainty.

But if these aggravated original symptoms appear on subsequent days
still of the same strength as at the beginning, or even with an
increased severity, it is a sign that the dose of this antipsoric
remedy, although properly selected according to homoeopathic
principles, was too large, and it is to be apprehended that no cure
will be effected by it; because the medicine in so large a dose is
able to establish a disease, which in some respects, indeed, is
similar to it; with respect to the fact, however, that the medicine in
its present intensity unfolds also its other symptoms which annul the
similarity, it produces a similar chronic disease instead of the
former, and, indeed, a more severe and troublesome one, without
thereby extinguishing the old original one.

This will be decided in the first sixteen, eighteen or twenty days of
the action of the medicine which has been given in too large a dose,
and it must then be checked, either by prescribing its antidote, or,
if this is not as yet known, by giving another antipsoric medicine
fitting as well as possible, and indeed in a very moderate dose, and
if this does not suffice to extinguish this injurious medicinal
disease, another still should be given as homoeopathically suitable as
possible.*

Now when the stormy assault caused by too large a dose of medicine,
although homoeopathically selected, has been assuaged through an
antidote or the later use of some other antipsoric remedies, then,
later on, the same antipsoric remedy - which had been hurtful only
because of its over-large dose - can be used again, and, indeed, as
soon as it is homoeopathically indicated, with the greatest success,
only in a far smaller dose and in a much more highly potentized
attenuation, i.e., in a milder quality

unquote

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Regards

Luise
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[Suriya]

Dear Tamara
You said she had been on prednisolone. This suppresses the inflammation
of the colitis and I have found that when a person has been on steroids,
the similimum will aggravate because it reverses the suppression. The
aggravation however is more severe than can be usually tolerated. I have
also found , quite accidentally I may add that giving ACTH or another
name for it is cortico in a low potency to a person who was previously
treated by steroids can reverse the suppression of the steroid and make
the person more able to take the similumum remedy. .
Having said that, colitis is a condition closely related to emotions, do
see what emotions were there before she got back the colitis and take
this into consideration when finding the similimum. Or as the colitis
improves she may get more and more emotional in some way and when this
happens, take care that this time the resolution of the emotions is in a
healthy way otherwise the emotions will manifest again as another
physical ailment .
regards
Suriya

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Suriya,

Thanks for this! I remember your *fascinating* write-up on that some time
back and it seems to me like really valuable information!!!

So in this case, would you have given the ACTH/cortico (6c? how often, and
what sorts of response have you usually seen?) on the history of
prednisolone/steroids *before* giving the simillimum, or rather have been
ready to step in with it quickly when/if aggravation started?

And from here, will ACTH/cortico low have the effect of stopping the
aggravation?

Thanks!
Shannon
on 9/22/04 12:46 AM, Suriya at suriyak56@time.net.my wrote:

[Suriya]

Bob&Shannon wrote:

Dear Shannon

The first time I used it was on a psoriasis case that had gone on to
joint involvement and he had been given a lot of steroids.
Homeopathic remedies selected on similmum had not helped and I thought
to give prednisone in potency but gave cortico instead, it was a slip of
my mind really cos I was thinking cortico was corticosteroid and not
corticotrophin which is entirely different really.
I discovered my slip after the remedy had been given and had produced
remarkably a skin rash that had preceded the psoriasis with a complete
resolution of the joint problem. The man needed other remedies later
and, last year on he went to a hot spring which brought back his
psoriasis full scale but it has again slowly resolved on homeopathic
treatment based on similars.

Another case I gave on purpose , because she had some triamcinolone
injections for alopecia which made the muscle on her temple atrophy , it
looked like it had melted really! Anyway cortico acutally restored the
muscle and the deformity was almost unoticeable a month later!

I would give it in any case of steroid use that had suppressed the
original symptoms since for me it makes sense to do this first and
avoid the aggravations I usually see in giving the similimum cases
treated with steroids .

This is my experience with it.

I d also like to point out that my own sister who aggravated every time
I tried to treat her ..she had been on steroids for asthma when she was
small, finally responded to homeopathy after she had undergone treatment
with Chinese herbs. Perhaps the herbs detoxed her first .

regards

Suriya