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muthu kumar
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Rx Time, Imponderables and Metaphysical Forces

Post by muthu kumar »

Hi-

Discussion of the Imponderables made me ponder a little bit. Seriously how is remedy Vacuum potentised? If I potentize Nux vomica I know that my 10c has less of Nux vom than 6c. Is there a way like this for Vacuum? Has 10c of Vacuum more or less Vacuum than 6c. Can you potentize Vacuum? Where I can find these provings? I have never used any ponderized imponderable – except may be Magnetis Polus Australis for an ingrowing toe-nail and the patient never came back ( may be really went to the South Pole). The whole concept is novel to me.
Warning: The following is not for the pure-hearted, non-materialistic, sacred souls.
In a lighter vein-
A materialistic back-lash from a spiritually- poor ultra-physical coarse individual-
Hertzian forces and what Andy calls as Non-Hertzian and Metaphysical forces really open up so many possibilities for me. In a previous post some body had said how a prescription based on 5 element theory had worked so beautifully. Since creativity and combining different philosophies seems to be the “in-thing”- in homeopathy, this gave me probably the insight of the century. Since according to 5 element theory ( I presume) all of us are made up of 5 elements - remedies could be made from all 5 elements using those imponderables (Air, Fire, Water, Earth and whatever the 5th one is) and this could be a Master Inter-current. It will be better than anything ever invented because it takes care of all the basic elements we are made up of.
Similarly using a metaphysical remedy like Delusions 200( where the emanations from one or more people having persistent Delusions) ( 200 is the potency - not the number of delusions that go into the remedy) could be prepared and given to all. If the theory - disease is a delusion is true this is the best anti-delusion, anti-disease ever. We could call these emotional thought form remedies as DAFT remedies ( Diluted Application of Formed Thoughts). Do not read any thing into the name ‘DAFT”. You would be daft to do so. If some lawyer sues me in the future because the patient complained that for his/her complaint I had prescribed and charged for NOTHING( Vacuum) I have the answer. I could treat the greedy lawyer with a remedy prepared from the emanations from Fort Knox or other holy places like Bank Vaults, I could call that as Money 200 and get done with the lawyer and his/her greed for money. The possibilities are really endless. We could treat criminals with emanations from the
best police department in the country – POLICE 200 would clear out our over-crowded prisons.
There are some confusing points though. Will human anger be different from anger of other organisms? For example somebody getting angry from this posting might show a different anger from that shown by a bunch of honey bees if I threw a stone at their hive.

We should think about this. May be we could use some Mercury( the planet) 200 to get some new ideas to solve the problem and use Jupiter 200 to enforce the decision. We could borrow the methodology from whoever did the Venus proving.
I read a book awhile ago called Psycho-symbolism where they had recommended meditating on the picture of a Lion or a Bull for treating Cowardice or Meekness. Maybe if I get a case where I decide to give Bar-carb all I have to do is take some blank globules, hold it in my hand , think about a Lion so that I am filled with the positive aggressive forces such an image would imbue me with and then give this to the patient. End of cowardice. We complicate homeopathy by trying to make it physico-chemical. Make it psycho-physical we make it simple and easy for “True New-Age Homeopathy” to flourish and cure the suffering lot in one swell sweep.
And probably I could trade in my medical diploma for a CSH - Certificate in Sainthood Homeopathy or Certificate in SpaceAge Homeopathy.
And if any one is upset about this I recommend Water Q in large quantities and Fresh Air in low dilutions to start with before we get ready with Upset 200 for you. (See -5 elements is very easy once you get the Yang of it oops sorry – the hang of it) ;-)
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3. Re: The Rx Time!!!
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4. Re: Criminal
From: "Patricia Hatherly"
5. Re: The Rx Time!!!
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21. Re: gallstone in homeopathy
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22. Re: Conference
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24. Re: gallstone in homeopathy
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25. A Short Course on Casetaking!
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 05:20:35 EDT
From: VBLUES@aol.com
Subject: Re: Criminal

In einer eMail vom 13.07.04 06:46:34 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreibt
triciah@rnhconsulting.com.au:

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13.7.4.
Well, this is like chalk and cheese. Let us not mix apples and pears.
Kind regards, Dr.medic.Viorel V. Bucur (www.dr-bucur.com).
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:01:28 +0100
From: J Lucas
Subject: Re: The Rx Time!!!

Notwithstanding that many of us think you are weird :-)) don't we have to be
careful how we judge the remedies in our MM's.

To me a centrifugal force is no more weird than Luna, Electricity, Sol,
Mephites, X-Ray, Phallus Impudicus, Tribulus etc etc. They are all weird and
wonderful but we have to be objective. So many times I come across people
saying they cannot possibly prescribe such and such a remedy because they
don't understand it, or know it or don't like it, cannot relate to it and
thus the simillimum is missed.

Centrifugally yours, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 13/7/04 11:29 AM, Julian Winston at jwinston@actrix.gen.nz wrote:
Too weird for me.
I assume it is "Irish time"
Now we need one for "Island time"

JW
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:13:32 +1000
From: "Patricia Hatherly"
Subject: Re: Criminal

Dear List members

This post was not sent by me and I have no explanation as to its
mischievious appearance.
I'm as upset by its appearance as any of you may be!

mystified
Patricia


andyh
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Re: Rx Time, Imponderables and Metaphysical Forces

Post by andyh »

muthu kumar wrote:
**** The proving is buried in my files unfortunately unaccessibly at the moment to check. It would be interesting to know how the manufacture of the sample was accomplished (it would probably be in the latest version of EH?). I assume it was a well-conducted procedure, and hope it was well-described. The bottom line is that the effect was captured such that the remedy produced effects in a blind proving; and treats people clinically.

Rochelle posted some notes from Glasscot from her recent talk at the Irish Conference on the specific clinical situations of Autism and special needs children--here is an excerpt on her indications for Vacuum in that clinical context (the remedy is much bigger than just this context, obviously as with any of our remedies):

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Vacuum - This is to do with power of speech. Speech wanting. Their speech is difficult, slurred and they have an empty vague feeling. Conversation agg. Anger if obliged to answer. Bewilderment. They feel separated from the words they speak. Childish.
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**** No, since a vacuum is not a material entity, but a nonmaterial physical ENVIRONMENT (omission of atmospheric gases and their partial pressures, leading to (in a PERFECT vacuum) an evacuated container without molecular contents or pressure). (Note- this is similar to the space environment outside the earth's atmosphere, though not totally equivalent -- (it is on earth, and within the earth's atmosphere and in a (probably) metallic apparatus--and thus minus some of the wide spectrum of hertzian electromagnetic emanations also present in the space vacuum there--so it is only a rough approximation of the outer space vacuum as it now exists).
**** Probably irrelevant in the case of this remedy, X-ray, and other Forces and Emanations. In fact, the material component is probably irrelevant after 6C for ALL homeopathic remedies, with the possible exception of the most reactive of hormones, pheromones or maybe neurotransmitters. After 6C (a 1 times 10 to the minus 12 fraction, or one trillionth, of the number of molecules in the original sample) it is highly likely that it is ONLY the pattern and structure of the forces of the remedy; in resonance with those of the living organism; that provide any positive remedial action.
**** Helios Pharmacy: http://www.helios.co.uk/Rx_frame.html
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Another way:
Extractions from the 2004 Rep Universale and Synthesis 9 (and probably the latest EH and ISIS library programs) will have the symptoms lists. The new version of Referenceworks has not come out yet, but it will be in that also). Have not yet seen it in any materia medicas, but maybe one of Vermuelen's newest has it listed. The proving was published in 2000 or 2001, if I recall correctly.
Best to all,
Andy


muthu kumar
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Re: Rx Time, Imponderables and Metaphysical Forces

Post by muthu kumar »

Thanks Andy-
I shall look it up

In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "andyh@m..." wrote:
Seriously how is remedy Vacuum potentised?
at the moment to check. It would be interesting to know how the
manufacture of the sample was accomplished (it would probably be in
the latest version of EH?). I assume it was a well-conducted
procedure, and hope it was well-described. The bottom line is that
the effect was captured such that the remedy produced effects in a
blind proving; and treats people clinically.
the Irish Conference on the specific clinical situations of Autism
and special needs children--here is an excerpt on her indications for
Vacuum in that clinical context (the remedy is much bigger than just
this context, obviously as with any of our remedies):
speech is difficult, slurred and they have an empty vague feeling.
Conversation agg. Anger if obliged to answer. Bewilderment. They feel
separated from the words they speak. Childish.
than 6c. Is there a way like this for Vacuum?
nonmaterial physical ENVIRONMENT (omission of atmospheric gases and
their partial pressures, leading to (in a PERFECT vacuum) an
evacuated container without molecular contents or pressure). (Note-
this is similar to the space environment outside the earth's
atmosphere, though not totally equivalent -- (it is on earth, and
within the earth's atmosphere and in a (probably) metallic apparatus--
and thus minus some of the wide spectrum of hertzian electromagnetic
emanations also present in the space vacuum there--so it is only a
rough approximation of the outer space vacuum as it now exists).
other Forces and Emanations. In fact, the material component is
probably irrelevant after 6C for ALL homeopathic remedies, with the
possible exception of the most reactive of hormones, pheromones or
maybe neurotransmitters. After 6C (a 1 times 10 to the minus 12
fraction, or one trillionth, of the number of molecules in the
original sample) it is highly likely that it is ONLY the pattern and
structure of the forces of the remedy; in resonance with those of
the living organism; that provide any positive remedial action.
x .25
was last updated on 6/30/2004.
Vacuum
Page
1-2
3-4
5-8
9-18
19-86
87-114
probably the latest EH and ISIS library programs) will have the
symptoms lists. The new version of Referenceworks has not come out
yet, but it will be in that also). Have not yet seen it in any
materia medicas, but maybe one of Vermuelen's newest has it listed.
The proving was published in 2000 or 2001, if I recall correctly.


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