It seems to me in this situation there is spasm of bladder neck. I wonder
about Nux or spasmodic remedy, Best Wishes Jean
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Cystitis
Re: Cystitis
Thanks Jean. The patient sent me an email this morning saying that Gossip tells her that this condition may not be so unusual after the TVT op she had and that she plans to go to the Doctor tomorrow for advice. She is out all day so won't be phoning me until tonight now.
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Re: Cystitis
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I have successfully treated cases of cystitis with Cantharis however, in the
case presented Rochelle, I am not convinced that this is the problem - with
cystitis there is pathology that is reasonably evident on quite simple
investigation - and would concur with Jean that there is a possibility that
it is a pain from spasm rather than infection --- might be worth a read up
on the operation and sequelae
Here is a brief synopsis for anyone interested
What is TVT?
The tension-free vaginal tape procedure, or TVT, is a new procedure first
developed in Sweden in 1995. This procedure is similar to the sling in
principle it forms a hammock under the urethra that bolsters it when you
laugh, cough, exercise, or strain in any other way.
This procedure has been performed on over 150,000 women in Europe and 20,000
in the United States, and the initial results are excellent. The success
rate so far is 85% after 3 years. Surgery takes about 30 minutes and may be
performed with local or epidural anesthesia. Most women can leave the
hospital within a few hours. Patients can urinate without problems
immediately after surgery.
A thin strip of supporting tape is used to form a hammock under the urethra.
The tape is made of a synthetic nylon-like mesh that grips the surrounding
tissues and holds itself in place without sutures until scar tissue grows
into the mesh. Like the sling, the procedure is performed through a small
incision in the vagina directly below the urethra. A loose hammock is made
beneath the urethra, and the ends of the hammock are pulled up through two
very small (1/2 inch) incisions made side by side in the skin just above the
pubic bone. The tape is carried up to the abdominal wall with an instrument
that avoids the need for the surgeon to make a tunnel. It’s faster and
easier to perform than the sling. Once the tape is placed properly below the
urethra, the extra material is trimmed, and the incisions on the skin’s
surface are closed.
Because the procedure is new, long-term outcomes (5-10 years) and risks are
still being determined, but the results to date have been excellent. While
the TVT was initially developed for stress incontinence, it has also been
used with some success for ISD combined with stress incontinence. It is
likely that this procedure will be useful for many women with incontinence,
and we have been impressed with the results in our own practice.
What is the Recovery Like After TVT?
Recovery is very rapid following TVT. The small incisions, the one in the
vagina and the two above the pubic bone, only cause mild discomfort for a
few days. Since the surgery can be performed under local or epidural
anesthesia with mild sedation, there is none of the grogginess people
sometimes feel after general anesthesia. Our patients are usually walking
around within a few hours and go home from the hospital shortly thereafter.
However, as is true with all incontinence surgery, it is important to limit
strenuous activity for three months to allow all the healing to take place.
Robyn
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I have successfully treated cases of cystitis with Cantharis however, in the
case presented Rochelle, I am not convinced that this is the problem - with
cystitis there is pathology that is reasonably evident on quite simple
investigation - and would concur with Jean that there is a possibility that
it is a pain from spasm rather than infection --- might be worth a read up
on the operation and sequelae
Here is a brief synopsis for anyone interested
What is TVT?
The tension-free vaginal tape procedure, or TVT, is a new procedure first
developed in Sweden in 1995. This procedure is similar to the sling in
principle it forms a hammock under the urethra that bolsters it when you
laugh, cough, exercise, or strain in any other way.
This procedure has been performed on over 150,000 women in Europe and 20,000
in the United States, and the initial results are excellent. The success
rate so far is 85% after 3 years. Surgery takes about 30 minutes and may be
performed with local or epidural anesthesia. Most women can leave the
hospital within a few hours. Patients can urinate without problems
immediately after surgery.
A thin strip of supporting tape is used to form a hammock under the urethra.
The tape is made of a synthetic nylon-like mesh that grips the surrounding
tissues and holds itself in place without sutures until scar tissue grows
into the mesh. Like the sling, the procedure is performed through a small
incision in the vagina directly below the urethra. A loose hammock is made
beneath the urethra, and the ends of the hammock are pulled up through two
very small (1/2 inch) incisions made side by side in the skin just above the
pubic bone. The tape is carried up to the abdominal wall with an instrument
that avoids the need for the surgeon to make a tunnel. It’s faster and
easier to perform than the sling. Once the tape is placed properly below the
urethra, the extra material is trimmed, and the incisions on the skin’s
surface are closed.
Because the procedure is new, long-term outcomes (5-10 years) and risks are
still being determined, but the results to date have been excellent. While
the TVT was initially developed for stress incontinence, it has also been
used with some success for ISD combined with stress incontinence. It is
likely that this procedure will be useful for many women with incontinence,
and we have been impressed with the results in our own practice.
What is the Recovery Like After TVT?
Recovery is very rapid following TVT. The small incisions, the one in the
vagina and the two above the pubic bone, only cause mild discomfort for a
few days. Since the surgery can be performed under local or epidural
anesthesia with mild sedation, there is none of the grogginess people
sometimes feel after general anesthesia. Our patients are usually walking
around within a few hours and go home from the hospital shortly thereafter.
However, as is true with all incontinence surgery, it is important to limit
strenuous activity for three months to allow all the healing to take place.
Robyn
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Re: Cystitis
Thanks for sending the stuff about the TVT op as I have a pamphlet on it but
no scanner!! Cantharis 30 has never done anything to help this lady. Spasm
to me usually means Mag Phos and I wonder if the tissue salts would be a
good idea.
Regards
Rochelle
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no scanner!! Cantharis 30 has never done anything to help this lady. Spasm
to me usually means Mag Phos and I wonder if the tissue salts would be a
good idea.
Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
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Re: Cystitis
Rubrics maybe of interest. Detrusotol is for bladder irritability. With her
it used to work but not apparently now. It will be interesting to see how
the surgeon explains it. Jean
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic (K649, G556) (Spasm) (28) : berb.,
canth., caul., chel., uva., alum., arg-n., bamb-a., bor-ac., cann-s., caps.,
caust., coc-c., con., cop., dig., jatr., med., nat-m., nux-v., pareir.,
ph-ac., phos., prun., puls., ruta, sars., ter.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; morning (K649, G556) (1) : cop.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; night (K649, G556) (1) : prun.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; urination; during (1) : pareir.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; urination; close of, at (3) : arg-n.,
bor-ac., puls.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; urination; after (3) : nat-m., nux-v.,
puls.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; extending to; back (1) : caul.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; extending to; chest (K649, G556) (2) :
alum., caul.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; neck (K649, G556) (10) : cann-s.,
caust., con., dig., jatr., med., phos., puls., ruta, sars.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; neck; closure, at (K649, G556) (8) :
puls., sars., cann-s., caust., con., dig., med., ruta
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; neck; urination, after (1) : puls.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; neck; extending to thighs after
urination (K649, G556) (1) : puls.
BLADDER; RETENTION of urine; convulsive, spasmodic (19) : Nux-v., canth.,
op., puls., bell., cact., camph., caps., caust., cina, coloc., hyos., ign.,
lach., lyc., rhus-t., stram., thlaspi, verat.
BLADDER; RETENTION of urine; convulsive, spasmodic; constriction of neck of
bladder, from (19) : hyos., nux-v., bell., cact., camph., canth., caps.,
caust., cina, coloc., ign., lach., lyc., op., puls., rhus-t., stram.,
thlaspi, verat.
BLADDER; SPASMS (K651, G557) (61) : ant-t., calc., camph., canth., caps.,
coc-c., cop., gels., ip., nux-v., ph-ac., prun., puls., sars., sep., vib.,
arg-n., arn., asaf., bell., berb., bry., cact., calad., cann-s., carb-v.,
carbn-s., caul., chim., chin., clem., colch., coloc., con., dig., eup-pur.,
hell., hydr., hyos., hyper., kali-br., lach., lup., lyc., mag-p., manc.,
med., merc., op., paull., petr., phos., phys., polyg., ruta, sec., sulph.,
tarent., ter., uva., zinc.
BLADDER; SPASMS; drunkards, in (3) : bell., lup., nux-v.
BLADDER; SPASMS; operations on meatus, orifice, after (3) : bell., hyper.,
coloc.
BLADDER; SPASMS; urination; before (K651, G558) (2) : manc., uva.
BLADDER; SPASMS; urination; during (K651, G558) (5) : asaf., cann-s.,
carbn-s., colch., op.
BLADDER; SPASMS; urination; after (K651, G558) (8) : cann-s., prun., puls.,
asaf., bry., med., sars., sec.
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck (K651, G558) (16) : Arn., colch., prun., arg-n.,
bell., cact., cann-s., cop., gels., hyos., kali-br., mag-p., nux-v., polyg.,
puls., ruta
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; night (K651, G558) (1) : prun.
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; anxiety, from (1) : bell.
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; sexual excesses, after (K651, G558) (1) : nux-v.
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; shock, from (1) : bell.
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; spasmodic stricture (K651, G558) (2) : mag-p., ruta
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; urination; close of, at the (1) : cann-s.
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; urination; after (1) : puls.
BLADDER; SPASMODIC action of (K651, G558) (3) : calc-p., tarent., zinc-p.
BLADDER; URINATION; dysuria; convulsive, spasmodic (16) : Nux-v., Vib., op.,
puls., bell., canth., caps., caust., cina, coloc., ign., lach., lyc.,
rhus-t., verat., vib-od.
BLADDER; URINATION; dysuria; painful; spasm of the bladder, from (K657,
G562) (1) : colch.
BLADDER; URINATION; dysuria; painful; spasmodic closure of the sphincter
while finishing (K657, G562) (1) : cann-s.
BLADDER; URINATION; dysuria; tenesmus of rectum, with; spasm of urethra, and
(K657, G562) (1) : prun.
BLADDER; URINATION; involuntary; night, incontinence in bed; spasmodic
enuresis (K659, G564) (17) : Arg., gels., nux-v., bell., canth., caps.,
cast., cina, coloc., hyos., ign., lach., lyc., op., puls., rhus-t., verat.
BLADDER; URINATION; retarded, must wait for urine to start; spasm of
sphincter, on account of (K661, G565) (2) : Op., sars.
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it used to work but not apparently now. It will be interesting to see how
the surgeon explains it. Jean
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic (K649, G556) (Spasm) (28) : berb.,
canth., caul., chel., uva., alum., arg-n., bamb-a., bor-ac., cann-s., caps.,
caust., coc-c., con., cop., dig., jatr., med., nat-m., nux-v., pareir.,
ph-ac., phos., prun., puls., ruta, sars., ter.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; morning (K649, G556) (1) : cop.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; night (K649, G556) (1) : prun.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; urination; during (1) : pareir.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; urination; close of, at (3) : arg-n.,
bor-ac., puls.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; urination; after (3) : nat-m., nux-v.,
puls.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; extending to; back (1) : caul.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; extending to; chest (K649, G556) (2) :
alum., caul.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; neck (K649, G556) (10) : cann-s.,
caust., con., dig., jatr., med., phos., puls., ruta, sars.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; neck; closure, at (K649, G556) (8) :
puls., sars., cann-s., caust., con., dig., med., ruta
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; neck; urination, after (1) : puls.
BLADDER; PAIN; convulsive, spasmodic; neck; extending to thighs after
urination (K649, G556) (1) : puls.
BLADDER; RETENTION of urine; convulsive, spasmodic (19) : Nux-v., canth.,
op., puls., bell., cact., camph., caps., caust., cina, coloc., hyos., ign.,
lach., lyc., rhus-t., stram., thlaspi, verat.
BLADDER; RETENTION of urine; convulsive, spasmodic; constriction of neck of
bladder, from (19) : hyos., nux-v., bell., cact., camph., canth., caps.,
caust., cina, coloc., ign., lach., lyc., op., puls., rhus-t., stram.,
thlaspi, verat.
BLADDER; SPASMS (K651, G557) (61) : ant-t., calc., camph., canth., caps.,
coc-c., cop., gels., ip., nux-v., ph-ac., prun., puls., sars., sep., vib.,
arg-n., arn., asaf., bell., berb., bry., cact., calad., cann-s., carb-v.,
carbn-s., caul., chim., chin., clem., colch., coloc., con., dig., eup-pur.,
hell., hydr., hyos., hyper., kali-br., lach., lup., lyc., mag-p., manc.,
med., merc., op., paull., petr., phos., phys., polyg., ruta, sec., sulph.,
tarent., ter., uva., zinc.
BLADDER; SPASMS; drunkards, in (3) : bell., lup., nux-v.
BLADDER; SPASMS; operations on meatus, orifice, after (3) : bell., hyper.,
coloc.
BLADDER; SPASMS; urination; before (K651, G558) (2) : manc., uva.
BLADDER; SPASMS; urination; during (K651, G558) (5) : asaf., cann-s.,
carbn-s., colch., op.
BLADDER; SPASMS; urination; after (K651, G558) (8) : cann-s., prun., puls.,
asaf., bry., med., sars., sec.
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck (K651, G558) (16) : Arn., colch., prun., arg-n.,
bell., cact., cann-s., cop., gels., hyos., kali-br., mag-p., nux-v., polyg.,
puls., ruta
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; night (K651, G558) (1) : prun.
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; anxiety, from (1) : bell.
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; sexual excesses, after (K651, G558) (1) : nux-v.
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; shock, from (1) : bell.
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; spasmodic stricture (K651, G558) (2) : mag-p., ruta
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; urination; close of, at the (1) : cann-s.
BLADDER; SPASMS; neck; urination; after (1) : puls.
BLADDER; SPASMODIC action of (K651, G558) (3) : calc-p., tarent., zinc-p.
BLADDER; URINATION; dysuria; convulsive, spasmodic (16) : Nux-v., Vib., op.,
puls., bell., canth., caps., caust., cina, coloc., ign., lach., lyc.,
rhus-t., verat., vib-od.
BLADDER; URINATION; dysuria; painful; spasm of the bladder, from (K657,
G562) (1) : colch.
BLADDER; URINATION; dysuria; painful; spasmodic closure of the sphincter
while finishing (K657, G562) (1) : cann-s.
BLADDER; URINATION; dysuria; tenesmus of rectum, with; spasm of urethra, and
(K657, G562) (1) : prun.
BLADDER; URINATION; involuntary; night, incontinence in bed; spasmodic
enuresis (K659, G564) (17) : Arg., gels., nux-v., bell., canth., caps.,
cast., cina, coloc., hyos., ign., lach., lyc., op., puls., rhus-t., verat.
BLADDER; URINATION; retarded, must wait for urine to start; spasm of
sphincter, on account of (K661, G565) (2) : Op., sars.
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Re: Cystitis
Just to add to Jeans contribution
if you look at this rubric you will notice that Mag. phos only gets a
(sorry about all the author references- can't seem to shake them loose!
From RU
BLADDER - PHENOMENA - CONVULSIONS, spasms
ANT-T.k arg-n.k,zzz arn.k,zzz asaf.b,k bell.bro,gcj,k berb.k bry.b
cact.k,zzz calad.k calc-p.k CALC.k CAMPH.b CANN-S.b,k CANTH.k CAPS.k
carb-v.gcj carbn-s.k,zzz caul.k chim.k chin.k clem.b COC-C.k colch.k,zzz
coloc.bro con.b COP.k dig.k equis-a.mdg eup-pur.k GELS.hl hell.k hydr.k
hyos.b,k hyper.bro IP.k kali-br.k,zzz lach.gcj LACT-V.mdg lam.mdg laur.mdg
lup.gcj lyc.gcj mag-p.k,zzz manc.k,zzz med.bg merc.b mese-c.mdg
NUX-V.k,zzz,gcj op.k paull.k petr.b PETROS.mdg PH-AC.k phos.bg phys.bg
polyg-h.bg PRUN.k PULS.b rat.mdg rutazzz,k SARS.b sec.b SEP.k sol-ni.mdg
sulph.gcj tarent.k ter.k uvak VIB.k zinc-phic.k zinc.k
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if you look at this rubric you will notice that Mag. phos only gets a
(sorry about all the author references- can't seem to shake them loose!
From RU
BLADDER - PHENOMENA - CONVULSIONS, spasms
ANT-T.k arg-n.k,zzz arn.k,zzz asaf.b,k bell.bro,gcj,k berb.k bry.b
cact.k,zzz calad.k calc-p.k CALC.k CAMPH.b CANN-S.b,k CANTH.k CAPS.k
carb-v.gcj carbn-s.k,zzz caul.k chim.k chin.k clem.b COC-C.k colch.k,zzz
coloc.bro con.b COP.k dig.k equis-a.mdg eup-pur.k GELS.hl hell.k hydr.k
hyos.b,k hyper.bro IP.k kali-br.k,zzz lach.gcj LACT-V.mdg lam.mdg laur.mdg
lup.gcj lyc.gcj mag-p.k,zzz manc.k,zzz med.bg merc.b mese-c.mdg
NUX-V.k,zzz,gcj op.k paull.k petr.b PETROS.mdg PH-AC.k phos.bg phys.bg
polyg-h.bg PRUN.k PULS.b rat.mdg rutazzz,k SARS.b sec.b SEP.k sol-ni.mdg
sulph.gcj tarent.k ter.k uvak VIB.k zinc-phic.k zinc.k
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Re: Cystitis
There is a rubric 'Bladder, spasms, after surgery' of did she have the
sensations of spasms before the op?
Best, Joy
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on 18/5/04 12:53 PM, rochelle at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:
sensations of spasms before the op?
Best, Joy
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on 18/5/04 12:53 PM, rochelle at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:
Re: Cystitis
There is a rubric 'Bladder, spasms, after surgery' of did she have the
sensations of spasms before the op?
Best, Joy
www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 18/5/04 12:53 PM, rochelle at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:
sensations of spasms before the op?
Best, Joy
www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 18/5/04 12:53 PM, rochelle at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:
Re: Cystitis
There is a rubric 'Bladder, spasms, after surgery' of did she have the
sensations of spasms before the op?
Best, Joy
www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 18/5/04 12:53 PM, rochelle at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:
sensations of spasms before the op?
Best, Joy
www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 18/5/04 12:53 PM, rochelle at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:
Re: Cystitis
Thanks for this Joy but I will have to find out from her if she would could her pain "spasms". She did not phone tonight as she said she would so I have emailed her and invited her in for a consultation if she wishes on Friday. She said she was going to the doctor tomorrow to see if what she is experiencing could be a result of the operation. Personally because the op is so new here I reckon the doctor will just refer her to the specialist who did the op. We will see.
Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
Regards
Rochelle
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