More ? about LM

[yerewan]

Firstly, thank you, Julian, for explaining about Qs and etc. That was most
educational.
My next question is, how much is there actually original molecules of the substance in the remedy, when say diluted Q1 (LM1) ?
We know that beyond C24 the remedy is immolecular but when does it happen in Qs ? Just heard some disturbing information about the matter lately and made me wonder . . .
thankfully,
-will

[Julian Winston]

At 12:01 AM +0300 5/4/04, yerewan wrote:

I have no idea, and am not in a mind frame to calculate.
Your figures are wrong. Avogadro's number-- the point at which there
are no molecules left in the sample-- happens at 24X-- which is 12C.
1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000-- that's 24 zeros.

What was the disturbing info?

JW

[Julian Winston]

At 12:01 AM +0300 5/4/04, yerewan wrote:
OK. I've thought it out.
This is ALL in theory, since the Q potencies past the 0/1 are made
using a single solid granule, and are NOT prepared through water--
therefore I'm not sure of the physics of it all.
But... if the dilution ratio is 50,000, then the dilution of a
100,000 would be a two times step.
Since the starting point is a 3c, and a 24X is 1/1 with 24 zeros
after, the first Q potency (0/1) would be the equal of a 4.5c and the
0/2 would be a 6c.
The 0/4 would be 7.5c. The 12c (the limit for Avogadro) is reached at
about a 0/7 potency-- at least by my calculation.
I'd be most happy to be corrected on this....

JW

[Ellen Madono]

Dear Julian,
On the Bengal Allen Website selling homeopathic remedies (Dr. Banerjea's site http://www.homoeopathy-course.com/p_list.htm) the following message suggests that Q means "mother tincture." Are they confused?
LIQUID POTENCIES AND MOTHER TINCTURES

Size Potencies from Q to 1 M

Blessings,
Ellen Madono

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Dr. Swift]

JW,

I hope this makes your day. I have attempted the potency equivalent
calculations. Since we are working on a logarithmic scale, it is hard for me
to be exact as I was never very good at logarithms. I am basing my
calculations on Barker's description of the prep of Q's in his "LM
Potencies" booklet. As you said, a 3 c is 1 x 10e6 dilution. Multiply that
by the next dilution of 50,000 (i.e. 5 x 10e4) to make a 0/1 and you get a 5
x 10e10 dilution which is just a hair over 5c (remember we are working in
logs and 6c is 1 x 10e12). Another 50,000 dilution to 0/2 gives 2.5 x 10e15
which is a trace over 7.5c. Another step to 0/2 brings us to 1.25 x 10e20
which a wisp over 10c. Yet another step to 0/3 brings us to 6.25 x 10e24 (a
smidgen past 12c) just a factor of 10 away from Avagadro's number. So it
seems to me that 0/3 dilution is just on the other side of the material -
immaterial border.

I am of course open to any corrections.

For those of you who feel a need to know:

2 wisps equal a trace
1 trace squared equals a hair
and a smidgen is a hair x pi.

be well

Russell Swift, DVM
Classical Homeopath
phone 561-391-5615
email drswift@therightremedy.com
www.therightremedy.com

"Allopaths have protocols, Homeopaths have principles."

[Rowles, Joie]

Russell,
I agree with your calculations completely, BUT there was a typo in your
post where you used LM02 twice, so that the 6.25 x 10e24 would be
occurring at LM04, not LM03. But what is a wisp of a trace of a smidgen
among friends?

Joie

[yerewan]

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That of LMs having some traces of molecules left in the Rx and when administering some poisonous Rx say Lachesis on daily basis wouldn't that end up poisoning the person?

-will-

[Julian Winston]

At 9:23 AM -0400 5/4/04, Ellen Madono wrote:

Although I have heard this from others in India, the PROPER sign for
a mother tincture is a zero with a slash though it. In some places it
might look like a Q.
I would ask them why they call the tinctures that since, in much of
the rest of the world "Q" is the signifier for the fifty-millesimal
potencies.

JW

[Julian Winston]

wrotye:
[snip]

I was never good at logs, other than sleeping like one. I figured 0/7
and figured it was high, you say 0/3.
Whatever.
There are so many other vairables in Q production-- the dried
granules being the main one.

Nice go!

JW

[Julian Winston]

At 12:15 AM +0300 5/5/04, yerewan wrote:

Oh my!
Written by an ignoramus!
While I'm sure that Lachesis 3c trit might have
the capability of poisoning (the HPUS limits the
OTC to 8X i.e., 4c and above) a 0/1 of Lachesis
is surely way beyond the capabilities of
poisoning.

JW