Shannon's case - was Averse to limitations

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Joy Lucas
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Shannon's case - was Averse to limitations

Post by Joy Lucas »

Dear Shannon, sorry to be brief but this sounds like Lycopodium to me (if
you take some of these bare essentials of the diseased state and not the
healthy state). Some of the other 'distinctive symptoms' you mention would
have been helpful to know.

Best wishes, Joy


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Shannon's case - was Averse to limitations

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Thanks, Joy!

Oh yes, Lyc, thanks for reminding me! I had thought of it, but I don't
recall having tried it with him; I'll have to check to be sure.

The "distinctive symptoms" were (a) loud eructations -- *very* loud! Long
and rolling, when he thinks he is safely out of earshot. :-) And (b) his
wife says he sweats profusely at night, "when he's been eating butter".
Since most everyone eats butter (and he certainly does!), I figured it was a
pretty safe rubric. (I see Lyc is of course in the eructations rubric, tho
not in the night sweats -- should I care, or not necessarily???)

Also some very definite food preferences: Loves spicy, butter, coffee,
martinis (whiskey?), and tends to drink just a little too much (mostly
martini and/or wine) at times (better for many years, now becoming
troublesome again). The food preferences are definite, so I did look at
those rubrics, but I have not had good luck using this for guidance, so I'm
not too tied into them...

Shannon
on 3/31/03 8:22 AM, Joy Lucas at joy.lucas@ntlworld.com wrote:


Joy Lucas
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Re: Shannon's case - was Averse to limitations

Post by Joy Lucas »

Dear Shannon, this sounds even more like Lycopodium. One of the most 'gassy'
remedies, they suffer enormously from this and many other digestive
conditions - they have to belch and it is is always loud, they feel so
bloated if they cannot get rid of the gas. Also very sweaty which usually
gets quite offensive. In fact Lycopodium has quite a range of temperatures
throughout the whole picture and << hot bed is one of them and you will
find it in the perspiration at night in bed rubric. Being a 'liver' remedy
they will nearly always like alcohol and other stimulants. This might also
be the reason he sweats at night after eating butter because the fat content
will irritate the liver and gall bladder and there is often an aggravation
from that situation (has he ever had gall stones by any chance?). All sounds
very Lycopodium to me.

Also, to answer your previous question about whether Pulsatilla could be
relevant here. The flip side of the well known picture of Pulsatilla is very
irritable, suspicious, gets a lot of fixed ideas and cannot tolerate being
put down in any way. But they are not like this all the time - the well
known 'changeability' of Pulsatilla will always be there somewhere and
appear to soften the edges somewhat. I would also say though the craving for
fat contra-indicates Pulsatilla - they cannot stand it in any shape or form.

Best wishes, Joy


Shannon Nelson
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Re: Shannon's case - was Averse to limitations

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Thank you so much, Joy!
I will try him with Lyc (and if I tried it before, I will try it again!).
Re gallstones, I'll ask; don't remember for sure. Now I can't wait to see
what happens!
:-))
Shannon
on 3/31/03 12:00 PM, Joy Lucas at joy.lucas@ntlworld.com wrote:


merrilee_jo
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Re: Shannon's case - was Averse to limitations

Post by merrilee_jo »

Hi
a thought against the Lycopodium - he likes and is good at acting-
Lyc has definite performance anxiety! Insecure and cowidice! Are
any physicals definitley R sided, what is his appetite like? How
does his symptom picture look with colds and flus? what are his
bowel habbits? Sleep position? Dreams?

Maybe clearing some of these questions will clear your thinking, I
use them when confused. Also helps to look at photos of the child,
boy adult and see the changes that have occured.

enjoy digging
Merrilee

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Joy Lucas wrote:
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butter".
figured it was
rubric, tho
coffee,
(mostly
becoming
did look at
guidance, so I'm


Eleana Needham
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Re: Shannon's case - was Averse to limitations

Post by Eleana Needham »

Merrilee

Agreed Lyc have performance anxiety but *BEFORE* the performance - once they
are up there doing it -be it a presentation or whatever- they are fine and
enjoy it.

Just to confuse things even further!

Eleana


Eleana Needham
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Re: Shannon's case - was Averse to limitations

Post by Eleana Needham »

Merrilee

Agreed Lyc have performance anxiety but *BEFORE* the performance - once they
are up there doing it -be it a presentation or whatever- they are fine and
enjoy it.

Just to confuse things even further!

Eleana


Joy Lucas
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Re: Shannon's case - was Averse to limitations

Post by Joy Lucas »

Dear Merrilee, the whole essence behind Lycopodium is CONTROL. Control is
what drives them. Without this control they are weak, timid, cannot
socialise, become cowardly.This is the beginning of the pathology. Shannon
called him a benevolent dictator, I always call potential Lycos 'silent
tyrants'. It is much the same thing. They need to control, and in fact when
they are in control they can appear very confident and excel at what they
are doing. Lyc has the fear of public speaking but when they get up to do it
they pass with flying colours. It is when the lose the control in their
lives that they then become irritable, impatient, critical and domineering
to an nth degree. It all depends at what point of the chain they are at when
they come to see you.

Hope this helps

Best wishes, Joy
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: Shannon's case - was Averse to limitations

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hm, I'll have to ask whether he has ever had stage fright, but I rather
doubt it! He's always been pretty "out there", so far as I can tell,
gung-ho, loving the limelight! I know he had several very entrepreneurial
jobs in earlier years, which doesn't seem very congruent with stage
fright...

But I'm thinking I should not rule out Lyc simply on absence of one symptom,
even tho it is such a prominent one for the remedy? I would love to hear
others' thoughts on this point. (Joy, what would your thought be?)

Thanks,
Shannon
on 3/31/03 4:32 PM, Eleana Needham at eleanan@hotmail.com wrote:


Rochelle Marsden
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Re: Shannon's case - was Averse to limitations

Post by Rochelle Marsden »

Hi Joy,
You wrote:-


I was taught that they love butter and kids will eat it from the dish.

BTW - I am only reading yesterday's mails today and when I read Shannon's case I have to admit that it was Lycopodium I was thinking all through my reading of the case.

All the best
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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