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Re: LMs
Several ways in which I find LMs are helpful:
In complex chronic cases, they create a gentle, gradual healing path with few if any adverse symptoms. Instead of aggravations serving as the main initial gauge of whether the remedy is working deeply, subtle energy shifts, dreams, and the direction of cure give very clear indicators by which the homeopath can judge the remedy's action. Contrary to what I've heard, I don't find they actually work any more slowly than centesimal potencies, which I do use when the person's vital force is strong, the remedy picture is clear, and the situation is not complicated by allopathic treatments and habitual use of potential remedy antidotes.
In addition -- and this is very important for many patients -- the fact that they can be repeated based on how the patient feels gives the patient a sense of participation in the healing process and also tends to diminish the frequency with which s/he is likely to forget about having taken the remedy and go do some other healing modality because they need to do something. It's especially helpful with anxious clients to keep them focused on the homeopathic treatment in this way.
Third, the ability to repeat doses helps to reduce the impediment likely to be posed by taking allopathic meds during the same time period as homeopathic remedies . Allopathic meds will still complicate and slow down the healing process, but the LM doses help to keep the client moving toward healing rather than just bogging down as often happens with C potencies in cases complicated by allopathic treatment.
For what it's worth, Rosemary
In complex chronic cases, they create a gentle, gradual healing path with few if any adverse symptoms. Instead of aggravations serving as the main initial gauge of whether the remedy is working deeply, subtle energy shifts, dreams, and the direction of cure give very clear indicators by which the homeopath can judge the remedy's action. Contrary to what I've heard, I don't find they actually work any more slowly than centesimal potencies, which I do use when the person's vital force is strong, the remedy picture is clear, and the situation is not complicated by allopathic treatments and habitual use of potential remedy antidotes.
In addition -- and this is very important for many patients -- the fact that they can be repeated based on how the patient feels gives the patient a sense of participation in the healing process and also tends to diminish the frequency with which s/he is likely to forget about having taken the remedy and go do some other healing modality because they need to do something. It's especially helpful with anxious clients to keep them focused on the homeopathic treatment in this way.
Third, the ability to repeat doses helps to reduce the impediment likely to be posed by taking allopathic meds during the same time period as homeopathic remedies . Allopathic meds will still complicate and slow down the healing process, but the LM doses help to keep the client moving toward healing rather than just bogging down as often happens with C potencies in cases complicated by allopathic treatment.
For what it's worth, Rosemary
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Re: LMs
Dear Shannon
The off the shelf remedies have their basis in Org 5.
LMs need instructions to be carefully followed. So if they are ever supplied
off the shelf, they should have their detailed instructions with them.
LMs have served me really well and I would recommend their use (also C
potencies in water) every time.
Talking about off the shelf remedies, Nelson's in UK gives instructions:
adults two tablets, children one tablet.
Never have found out WHY??
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Best wishes
Soroush
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:38:11 -0600
From: Bob&Shannon
Subject: Re: LMs
Thanks Soroush,
I've read David's excellent articles, and IMO they should be the basis for
anyone wanting to begin using LMs. If someone new to homeopathy (as well as
new to LMs) gets their start by studying and heeding David's instructions,
there will probably be no problem. So I suppose it depends on how one
defines "beginner".
I do see a problem with the added flexibility/complexity of LM dosing, and I
do not see any correspondending advantage. Are you suggesting that LMs
should be available off-the-shelf in the same way that low potencies are?
Shannon
on 1/28/05 10:42 AM, Finrod at finrod@webstar.co.uk wrote:
The off the shelf remedies have their basis in Org 5.
LMs need instructions to be carefully followed. So if they are ever supplied
off the shelf, they should have their detailed instructions with them.
LMs have served me really well and I would recommend their use (also C
potencies in water) every time.
Talking about off the shelf remedies, Nelson's in UK gives instructions:
adults two tablets, children one tablet.
Never have found out WHY??

Best wishes
Soroush
Message: 5
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:38:11 -0600
From: Bob&Shannon
Subject: Re: LMs
Thanks Soroush,
I've read David's excellent articles, and IMO they should be the basis for
anyone wanting to begin using LMs. If someone new to homeopathy (as well as
new to LMs) gets their start by studying and heeding David's instructions,
there will probably be no problem. So I suppose it depends on how one
defines "beginner".
I do see a problem with the added flexibility/complexity of LM dosing, and I
do not see any correspondending advantage. Are you suggesting that LMs
should be available off-the-shelf in the same way that low potencies are?
Shannon
on 1/28/05 10:42 AM, Finrod at finrod@webstar.co.uk wrote:
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Re: LMs
So I think that is the key, we are using different definitions of
"beginner". Tho I quail at the thought of people treating self and family
without *some* basic education and information, that basic information is
more readily available than is the further instruction on LM use.
Re water dosing, i have had three occasions--two with myself and one with a
friend--where dry dose works better than water dose. Altho she/I have on
*other* occasions used water dosing with good result, on these certain
occasions dry worked and water didn't. Perhaps if we'd drunk the whole cup
it would have worked! (To be honest I usually use dry doses because it has
worked well for me, so my water dose experience is less than it might be.)
Have you ever found this, and what are your thoughts about it?
Shannon
on 1/29/05 4:26 AM, Finrod at finrod@webstar.co.uk wrote:
"beginner". Tho I quail at the thought of people treating self and family
without *some* basic education and information, that basic information is
more readily available than is the further instruction on LM use.
Re water dosing, i have had three occasions--two with myself and one with a
friend--where dry dose works better than water dose. Altho she/I have on
*other* occasions used water dosing with good result, on these certain
occasions dry worked and water didn't. Perhaps if we'd drunk the whole cup
it would have worked! (To be honest I usually use dry doses because it has
worked well for me, so my water dose experience is less than it might be.)
Have you ever found this, and what are your thoughts about it?
Shannon
on 1/29/05 4:26 AM, Finrod at finrod@webstar.co.uk wrote:
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Apparently Soroush the reason is, that by law there has to be a children's dose on medicines!!!
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Re: LMs
Dr. Roz,
Well, all those items are adjustable in LMs which puts you and the patient in charge.
The LM system is like a Ferrari Testarossa, you can go from 0-180 mph very quick but need to learn how to drive it and shift gears or you can crash and burn, i.e. aggravation. Some people can pass out at top speed.
If you put the Ferrari into low gear and floor it, you don't get that speed and can burn out the engine.
The Ferrari shows its strength on a road like the Autobahn where there is no speed limit
It won't on a USA highway with 55mph speed limit and appears to function like any other car, except when it needs to pass a slow driver
Put a Ford on the Autobahn and it will fall apart attempting 180mph.
Your pharmacy is not following Hahnemann. 150 mls is 5 ounces. Hahnemann specifies 3.5 to 4 ounces water to make LM stock.
Did they use 1 or 2 or more LM globules to make the stock solution?
The initial succussion is OK, 8, 10, 12 which H suggests.
For sensitive patients, you can start with 8 ounces of water to make the LM stock bottle which H mentions.
then succuss less starting at 2 succussions, not 8, 10 or 12 and use 1/2 tsp instead of one tsp.
You say you used 250 mls water to dissolve a teaspoon, that's 8.45 ounces, not 4 which H instructs.
Each dilution glass is supposed to be 4 ounces.
You can't blame the LM system for not working if you don't follow it exactly to start.. Maybe quantum physics can explain the differences when you vary off of H's instructions. Even subtle variations can cause unexpected results.
As I mentioned previously, I experimented using 2 ounces of water with 1/2 tsp LM stock. While the dilution ratio were the same, and I took same dosage, 1 tsp, I proved the remedy during LM 8 and LM 9. Now following what H says, 4 oz water and 1 tsp, I haven't proved and am about to start LM13.
I also find 6 succussions just right, 8 succusions too stimulating.
LMs are very useful and powerful but require time and effort to master the parameters and make sure the patient is using them correctly.
Susan
Well, all those items are adjustable in LMs which puts you and the patient in charge.
The LM system is like a Ferrari Testarossa, you can go from 0-180 mph very quick but need to learn how to drive it and shift gears or you can crash and burn, i.e. aggravation. Some people can pass out at top speed.
If you put the Ferrari into low gear and floor it, you don't get that speed and can burn out the engine.
The Ferrari shows its strength on a road like the Autobahn where there is no speed limit
It won't on a USA highway with 55mph speed limit and appears to function like any other car, except when it needs to pass a slow driver
Put a Ford on the Autobahn and it will fall apart attempting 180mph.
Your pharmacy is not following Hahnemann. 150 mls is 5 ounces. Hahnemann specifies 3.5 to 4 ounces water to make LM stock.
Did they use 1 or 2 or more LM globules to make the stock solution?
The initial succussion is OK, 8, 10, 12 which H suggests.
For sensitive patients, you can start with 8 ounces of water to make the LM stock bottle which H mentions.
then succuss less starting at 2 succussions, not 8, 10 or 12 and use 1/2 tsp instead of one tsp.
You say you used 250 mls water to dissolve a teaspoon, that's 8.45 ounces, not 4 which H instructs.
Each dilution glass is supposed to be 4 ounces.
You can't blame the LM system for not working if you don't follow it exactly to start.. Maybe quantum physics can explain the differences when you vary off of H's instructions. Even subtle variations can cause unexpected results.
As I mentioned previously, I experimented using 2 ounces of water with 1/2 tsp LM stock. While the dilution ratio were the same, and I took same dosage, 1 tsp, I proved the remedy during LM 8 and LM 9. Now following what H says, 4 oz water and 1 tsp, I haven't proved and am about to start LM13.
I also find 6 succussions just right, 8 succusions too stimulating.
LMs are very useful and powerful but require time and effort to master the parameters and make sure the patient is using them correctly.
Susan
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Interesting that it worked for other patients very well.....but then this is completely moot for me now as I do not use LMs any more.
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Given the types of cases and situations you've treated and posted about over the years, I haven't seen much reason for you to use LMs. LMs seem best suited for chronic diseases where frequent to daily dosing is necessary. While the C potencies were helpful to me in reduicing the amount of lithium I used over the years, I could never eliminate it until using LMs daily. Within 3 months moving from the same antipsoric remedy in 200C to LM I'm able to live lithium free, after 35 years, and having brief physical withdrawal symptoms from it. This also frees up my kidneys from further longterm damage as now diabetes also is kidney destructive in a different way.
That is an example of the miracle of homeopathy which no other health system can accomplish and a tribute to the genius of Hahnemann.
Of course we know you are a miracle worker, if not also a genius, too!
Susan
That is an example of the miracle of homeopathy which no other health system can accomplish and a tribute to the genius of Hahnemann.
Of course we know you are a miracle worker, if not also a genius, too!
Susan
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Thanks....I used LMs abundantly until around 6 years ago and with fairly
good results.....
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Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of science is a closed mind"
good results.....
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Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of science is a closed mind"