another request: mm for ignis alcoholis

[Jasbir Kaur Villaschi]

Thank you to all those who replied to the last request, the patient has
the numbers and details...

This is a request for materia medica, repertory extraction or cases
involving Ignis alcoholis ... any contributions welcome .

I seem to remember a posting but have searched in vain

Thanks in advance

Jas

[Shannon Nelson]

How very weird!
I too remember someone posting a mm of it, and I *swear* I remember
downloading it, but it's gone. Must have spontaneously combusted...

If someone has it, could they either re-post, or send to me, too?

Thanks!
Shannon

Here's what I do find, tho:

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From: Wendy Howard
Reply-To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
To: Minutus
Date: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Ignis alcoholis

...
I generally use a 30C repeated as necessary for most minor to moderately
severe burns. I'd use 200C for more severe, deep and extensive burns, but
thankfully I've never needed to yet.

Some case examples:

Case 1. 8 year-old boy fell into a garden fire and put out his hand to break
his fall. Whole hand burned. Treated allopathically. Mother spoke to me
about a week later concerned that the hand looked pretty nasty when the
dressing was being changed - blistered areas suppurating, skin greyish and
sloughing, no healing evident. Gave 30C that night. Following day when
dressing was changed, hand was transformed - suppuration almost ceased and
skin pink and regenerating. As a result, mother doubted her own observations
of the previous day and concluded that her judgement must have been affected
by her concern. All evidence of burns now gone.

Case 2. Me! Reaching across open door of wood-burning stove to get more
logs, brought underside of right forearm down on top of door. Burn was deep
enough to fuse several layers of skin together. Treated immediately with hot
water and with Ignis alc 30C. Never blistered. No repeat dose required.
Healed completely with all signs of scarring and redness gone within 4
months. Only evidence left after 10 months is a tiny (2mm) area of whitish
skin where the deepest part of the burn was. In contrast, friend who has
identical burn from identical cause, but which was less deep than mine,
still has prominent red weal on arm after 8 months.

The potential of the remedy became apparent during Nuala's proving. Several
provers noticed that burns disappeared very quickly, but there was also the
case of a very young child who was severely scalded. This is from 4 year-old
memory, but if I remember rightly a pot of boiling water or tea or something
similar fell all over them. The child was rushed to hospital. The burns were
so extensive that the prognosis was pretty poor. A relative knew of the
proving and contacted Nuala. The remedy was driven right the way across
Ireland and given to the child in hospital in the only potency (30C) they
had at the time. I can't remember details of any repeat dosages, etc, but
the child recovered fully and without scarring.

Helios in the UK stock the remedy. Nuala has published the proving (in the
same volume as Amber). I would guess you should be able to get it through
Minimum Price though I haven't checked their catalogue. It's in the latest
version of ReferenceWorks.

Regards
Wendy
on 11/14/02 10:42 AM, Jasbir Kaur Villaschi at jkv@which.net wrote:

[Jasbir Kaur Villaschi]

Thanks Shannon,

Anybody have cases involving treatment of second and Third degrees burns I'm especially interested in third degree as have not found much homeopathic literature is it the case that severity of injuries etc mean it's mainly the jurisdiction of allopathic treatment/surgery??

Jas

Robert&Shannon Nelson wrote:

[Rosemary Hyde]

I just remember an experience of my own with a second degree burn from
touching a hot shelf in the oven with several fingers (don't ask!). I ran
the burned area under cold water, which felt good but didn't keep the
blisters from rising or the pain from increasing. Then I took cantharis 30c
every few minutes and watched in tremendous astonishment as the blisters
started going down again and the pain seeped away, so that my skin felt
perfectly fine 30 minutes later and there was no trace of the burn. The
next day, the top layer of skin that had been blistered was peeling off, as
ait does fter a severe sunburn has healed, but there was absolutely no other
manifestation that the burn had occurred. I think the speed with which I
took the remedy helped, because the real damage to the skin below the top
layer didn't have a chance to establish itself so that it was irreversible
and would have to heal deeply. But I never would have imagined that a burn
could reverse itself that way.

Obviously, this is a really minor experience compared with third degree
burns over a significant portion of a person's body. But it indicates that
homeopathic remedies used quickly as first aid can help to lessen the
severity of a burn's consequences. I've seen various brief references to
both Causticum and Cantharis for use with second or third degree burns.
Morrison mentions both remedies for this.

Rosemary Hyde

[Patti Mount]

Rosemary,

so do you remember WHY you chose Canth over Caust as your first aid choice
in that situation?

Respectfully yours,
Patti Mount, President, IANTD World HQ
Patti@iantd.com
http://www.iantd.com
DIVE SAFE!
DIVE NITROX!
DIVE IANTD!
30c
seen various brief references to

[Rosemary Hyde]

Patti,

I think I chose Canth because the rapidity with which the burns blistered
really impressed me -- within less than 3 minutes there were already huge
blisters over the whole burned area. It was like a rapid severe reaction to
a poisonous bite -- with a huge amount of instant pain. Causticum seems a
bit less intense and rapid.

Rosemary

[Dave Hartley]

The proving of ignis alcoholis was done in 1998 by Nuala Eisling, and ought
not to be posted.
The authors of recent provings need to be justly compensated for the time,
effort, and costs of conducting and publishing provings - otherwise, the
incentive to DO provings diminishes.

As Wendy mentions, the proving is in RefWorks, it is also in Encyclopedia
Homeopathica, and is also available in book form (together with proving of
Succinum (Amber)
http://www.minimum.com/p7/engine/book.asp?n=2459#

list of many 'modern' provings published & available for purchase
http://www.minimum.com/p7/engine/cats3.asp?category=pro
regards,
Dave Hartley
www.Mr-Notebook.com
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Seattle, WA 425.820.7443
Asheville, NC 828.285.0240

[Rochelle]

Like wise - I checked my MM folder on the computer too!! I think it may even
have been me who posted something from a lecture by Nuala - I remember bits
of it like the provers painting their homes white and cleaning out the
places to give the minimulistic feel. I will check again under Fire rather
than Ignis!!

Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk