psychological portraits

[Ellen Madono]

I have been reading books on the enneagram. It is an old fashion (From the Sufi mystics, so "old fashion") pop psychology. Now I am reading a book by a psychologist. I am repertorizing various types. I would share them if anyone is interested.

Do others have an interest in the Enneagram.

To differentiate a long list of remedies, it is often good to be able to quickly differentiate. I think it is most difficult to see a psychological image of small remedies, or to see remedies that have very bad reputations in a more objective light.

Also, when you first meet a patient, you have to quickly see how to work with them (manipulate??). For example, you can not tell a withdrawn, verbally challenged, computer guru a long detailed description of how to fill out a questionnaire. They have no patience for long descriptions.

How do you think about sizing up patients in a very practical sense?

[Sherill]

Ellen,

How synchronistic! I was doing a similar thing last night. I took my first screen test for enneagram and have a few small volumes from which I began learning the nine personalities types and immediately called them remedies in my head to learn.... I would like to be a part of this study/project - cautioning you that I am just at the beginning.
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I have been reading books on the enneagram. It is an old fashion (From the Sufi mystics, so "old fashion") pop psychology. Now I am reading a book by a psychologist. I am repertorizing various types. I would share them if anyone is interested.
Do others have an interest in the Enneagram.
To differentiate a long list of remedies, it is often good to be able to quickly differentiate. I think it is most difficult to see a psychological image of small remedies, or to see remedies that have very bad reputations in a more objective light.
Also, when you first meet a patient, you have to quickly see how to work with them (manipulate??). For example, you can not tell a withdrawn, verbally challenged, computer guru a long detailed description of how to fill out a questionnaire. They have no patience for long descriptions.
How do you think about sizing up patients in a very practical sense?

[Ellen Madono]

Let’s do it. I’m just starting to in psychology is not my thing. But I’m finding it extremely useful. Not with my personal relationships only. How to instruct the patient, or commonsense understanding of what they’re thinking. I don’t think it’s going to help me with repping them.

I think I can’t put up my rep charts on Minutus.

[Hennie Duits]

Ah, thank you, enneagrams so far have been outside my scope, but I'd say
the types could well be connected to (combinations of)
Bach (and other) flower remedies.

Hennie

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[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

That sounds pretty complicated for my simple mind...........
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

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[Ellen Madono]

Use broad themes. I have to figure out how to make contradictory symptoms. And polarity symptoms. Homeopathy is always hard for me because I am a big picture person who gets stuck on little symptoms without making the connection to the big picture. So, this kind of play is good for me. Mind symptoms are notoriously inaccurate or hard to identify. I need to play around.

[CLBernat]

I think any template that sends us in the right direction is valuable. We can only build a picture of a remedy from the information a client provides from the outside appearance, behaviors, and the words they choose to share. The interview is always an "onion" session. Trying to find the the important symptoms from the not so important. Count me in.

Carol Stuart

[Ellen Madono]

Hi Carol,

Others minutus members have privately expressed an interest in creating repertorizations for different Enneagram personality types. We put them up on my website and then notify the group when we get new additions. If we could add photos here, we would not have to go to a different website.

I agree with Carol, it is necessary to get the big picture.

How could different remedies shift personality types? Are they stressed, relaxed, at a different level of health. When we rely on totally verbal imagery, it is hard to relate one set to another.

I have played around with the Mappa Mundi and the 5 elements of Chinese medicine. They are excellent for relating psychological conditions to physical conditions. The problem is for me, the psychological conditions don't relate well to my daily life experience. They are like boilerplates that I use when I am organizing symptoms in a complex case. I am doing what Jeremy Sherr calls "pre-analysis." I don't necessarily use a whole system, they are just organizing templates to use when effective to reduce the chaos of a complex case.

This enneagram is different for me because it does not relate to well to physical processes. It is more Jungian. Christians have been using it to sort out human relationships. I am watching other interesting developments that bridge East and West. This Enneagram seems closer to daily experience of human differences.

I have a feeling that engaging with these different patterns will help me to limber up my perceptive ability. That flexibility is more useful than believing that they supply answers.

Best,
Ellen

[Amy Page]

I look forward to this information.

I work a lot with essences too and picked up some connections.
Amy Page

The Barefoot Homeopath

Shamanic Passage

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1d. Re: psychological portraits
Posted by: "Hennie Duits" he.duits@kpnmail.nl hennieduits024
Date: Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:41 pm ((PDT))

Ah, thank you, enneagrams so far have been outside my scope, but I'd say
the types could well be connected to (combinations of)
Bach (and other) flower remedies.

Hennie