Combo Remedies: antidoting reason?

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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Combo Remedies: antidoting reason?

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

Thanks for the kudos but I do not think they are realistic.

I also had an inadvertent proving of Lachesis while I was testing what happens with combos...the throat symptoms are not very nice...but looking back a few months after the event I realised that I was probably in or close to a state of Lachesis at that time, so the remedy made the symptoms appear clearly, then they subsided as soon a I stopped taking it.

And that is the point: follow-up, warning patients about repeated doses too frequently and even when I use my "combos", it is only for a limited time unless the patient's health need the constant repetition of information and stimulation.

What can and does happen, again an assumption, is that constant repetition of a not needed remedy "locks in" symptoms that emerge. The important notion is the need for a remedy. For example I have now repeated 8 times a F series of my core remedy, because it was needed to regain balance and normality....and that is total heresy in classical thinking: if I need those repeats, maybe I need another, different remedy...but no, it was always the same.

We have so much work to do to understand what happens.....

Joe.
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Maria Bohle
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Re: Combo Remedies: antidoting reason?

Post by Maria Bohle »

For your repetition of remedies. Did you take a nosode between each series? If you remove the driving influence then hopefully the relapses should not happen. Lessons I learned in India.

Not throwing complements around. You know what the warning signs are and know why you are using a remedy or even a combo. You do not throw remedies around in historic fashion.

I took ambra Gris for years as Rxd by a homeopath. It seemed to do me a lot of good and yes there were accessory sx - not my sx.

One of them was narrowing of all bodily openings. Mouth was tight and felt like all bodily openings consticted, etc. my skin thickened and I got dark spots and warts ( never had a wart before). Some sx got too uncomfortable for me to continue the remedy.

In short order those sx that were clearly NOT mine like the thick skin and warts were eliminated and my normal skin returned.

So if the sx are not yours the body will go back to normal without the stimulus of the remedy.

If it is a symptom match, a higher potency ( see energy) than the patient needs could increase your own natural symptom with bad management and you are stuck with it like hemorrhoids.
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Combo Remedies: antidoting reason?

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

Yes I did, it is described in "Third Millennium Homeopathy" under "The proving of a system" and then needed to repeat a few more times due to other external influences.

Taking remedies for years, non stop, unless needed for unavoidable palliation, is a big no no in my practice. Repeating them with a good reason in good practice, otherwise it simply means the remedy is incorrect.
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Rochelle Marsden
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Re: Combo Remedies: antidoting reason?

Post by Rochelle Marsden »

Hi Maria,

I snore according to my husband and am always spilling MP on myself as I medicate pillules. Soooooo
1) Which MP do you think started the snoring
2) What should we do when spilling MP on ourselves. (Maybe start a new thread for this!!) I used to use tea tree oil on my fingers as that is where it usually goes but lately just cold water!!
Thans
Rochelle


Maria Bohle
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Re: Combo Remedies: antidoting reason?

Post by Maria Bohle »

I had an Op patient, older man in his 80s who had been hit by a bus, no pains anywhere with delayed responses, his wife/caretaker came over in a panic requesting more remedy for him. He had wandered away while she was on a roof, he was supposed to be holding
the ladder, he also wandered away while cooking and almost burnt their house down. I made up the next LM potency and spilled a couple drops on my leg. Joked about proving the remedy and promptly forgot about it.

Sx ; Sleepy, woke but kept falling right back to sleep,
I tried anti doting the minute I recognized what was happening. Now I know when someone says, "Maria, What is wrong with you?" That I am usually proving something.
The sleepiness diid antidote some, the snoring I carried for years and years. Everyone teased me about it. Loud and frequent. I would be sitting in a chair and start to drift off and could feel my jaw drop and block the airway and would snore loudly. Kids said they could hear me all through the house.

Interesting proving. No high just that sleepiness and snoring. I forget what else, that was 20 years ago.

Today, I keep a bottle of camphora essential oils near me in the office. If I spill any thing I apply those oils atop the spill right away.

I proved a lot of things I still carry with me. Chest pains annually from Osage Orange; dullness and perhaps slower comprehension from Baryta carb - took me three months after the spill for those sx;
And an allergy plus legs thickening and swelling, breast lump and a changes Pap smear. from Black Cherry - all discharges turned black cherry color. This one took me more than a year to remove, I used ascending potencies. The doctors office was besides themselves when I refused a mammogram and further tests because I was doing a proving. They bugged me for years to follow up with more medical tests. Yes the lump disappeared and the subsequent Pap smear was fine. Will still get the heavy leg symptoms if I eat black cherries.

Maybe we could write up all of our provings and collect them in a book.

Gee I like provings, but am more cautious now. They are not parlor games.

Maria


Maria Bohle
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Re: Combo Remedies: antidoting reason?

Post by Maria Bohle »

O noticed when I have a 'close enoughicum remedy it does good work but is unable to finish a case.
Then we keep a patient on a remedy maybe too long when a refinement can work better.

One case looked like Nat mur. That one did a lot of good but just could not bring the case to a close - but Aqua marina cured it promptly.
Rhus tox looked really good for a long time but Rhus glab cured.
We can get these kinds of cases.

Thanks for the tip on repeating the cycles.

Maria


Roger Barr
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Re: Combo Remedies: antidoting reason?

Post by Roger Barr »

My only personal experience with Combo remedies was with Poison Oak (PO).

Previous to my trial with the Combo remedy, every time that I had had PO, it would cause a "bubbling" rash that spread and discharged a yellow fluid and intensely itched for 2 weeks then went away.

This time I took the Combo remedy which contained all the usual suspects: Rhus-t, Anac, etc. in low potency. After taking it the itch subsided for about half an hour and then resumed unabated. This happened 3 times with no overall improvement.

So I took my own case and decided I needed Rhus-t. After taking it in a 30c the itch went away within half an hour and by the next morning it was as if I had never had the PO.

Next time I got PO, Rhus-t didnt work, so I took my own case and decided I needed Anac. Took it and the itch went away within half an hour and the next morning it was if I had never had the PO.

The third time I got PO, neither Rhus-t nor Anac worked so I tried several remedies successively. I dont know if any of them worked as the 2 week period ended and the PO went away.

I have been exposed to PO many times since then without having any reaction, or at most a brief tiny reaction to it. I believe the susceptibility to it has been removed.

Pretty sure that the combo remedy would not have removed my susceptibility.

Roger Barr


Tanya Marquette
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Re: Combo Remedies: antidoting reason?

Post by Tanya Marquette »

Lucky dude having your susceptibiltiy reduce.

The opposite was true for me and my susceptibility is very high.

Each season begins with a minimal outbreak which is tolerable but then

returns in several spots. By the end of the 2nd week I am getting covered

and itching like crazy all over. Fortunately, after trying about 8-10 remedies,

someone suggested Rhus V. I has worked for about 10 yrs every summer which

allows me to have one.
t


Leilanae
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Re: Combo Remedies: antidoting reason?

Post by Leilanae »

"or is it some other aspect of how the body reacts to homeopathics?"

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The energy of the remedy is received by the vital force.

Some say if goes like this:

Vital Force (the energy which maintains life) is deranged (disturbed in the order, arrangement or function).

Take the totality of the case.

Choose the most similar remedy in a potency (energy) slightly higher than the derangement.

The remedy creates a similar artificial energy derangement.

The original derangement is extinguished.

The energy of the artificial remedy derangement “runs out”.

Vital force is restored.

Atb,

Leilanae


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Combo Remedies: antidoting reason?

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

1. why would you think it is a remedy that caused the snoring?

2. gloves.......
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